Kv-85

[Thompson-Nagant]

Then the difference in price should get closer.

[ShtoormoVick]

KVs were cheaper to produce, a lot

[Roy Bond]

Tiger I wasn't all that good, especially when it comes to armor, and it still has a superior range in the game, compared to 85-mm gun.

Then the Tiger I in 1942 was introduced it was truely unbeatable,but as the war progressed it got outdated,and also note it had high strength homogeneous nickel-steel plating with Brinell hardness index of around 255-280 made incoming round shatter,also
The reports from british tests stated that the resistance of the Tiger's armor was "considerably higher than that of the British machineable quality armor. The side armor, with a thickness of 82 mm (nominal thickness was 80 mm) had a resistance equivalent of 92 mm of British armor"
source:http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger1.htm

[ShtoormoVick]

All this school stuff is redundant and completely unneeded here, esp. since it does not disprove the point I have made earlier.

[Roy Bond]

The true power of russian war engine was their sheer number of their forces as they hopelessly outnumbered the germans later on in the war.

[Thompson-Nagant]

KVs were cheaper to produce, a lot

That is not how the prices are or should be set.

[alex0809]

Just take this unit out of the game, seriously, it's completely redundant...
it was useless with 75mm armour, now it's just an IS1 a little bit worse. Still too cheap. And they can't just magically make the gun weaker like with the Hetzer because it has the exact same gun as IS1.

It's not even an important unit of the war. It was built in small numbers, it made no real difference in any battle, it was an outdated bad tank. I just don't see where it has its place.

[Roy Bond]

Just take this unit out of the game, seriously, it's completely redundant...
it was useless with 75mm armour, now it's just an IS1 a little bit worse. Still too cheap. And they can't just magically make the gun weaker like with the Hetzer because it has the exact same gun as IS1.

It's not even an important unit of the war. It was built in small numbers, it made no real difference in any battle, it was an outdated bad tank. I just don't see where it has its place.

Absolutely agree!

[Norbo]

85-mm gun is supposed and must kill tigers...

Yes, the 85 is powerfull enough to kill a Tiger from close ranges or the side (as in reality I suppose). But you don't see SU-85:s killng much Tigers ingame: the issue here is the absurd armour values that make the KV-85 OP.

[Norbo]

Just take this unit out of the game, seriously, it's completely redundant...
it was useless with 75mm armour, now it's just an IS1 a little bit worse. Still too cheap. And they can't just magically make the gun weaker like with the Hetzer because it has the exact same gun as IS1.

It's not even an important unit of the war. It was built in small numbers, it made no real difference in any battle, it was an outdated bad tank. I just don't see where it has its place.

+1

Replace it with the good old T-26 (seriously, I really miss that tank)