Identify vehicles from WW2

[Mushroomcar]

Hey!

I thought about making like a thread where you post a picture of a vehicle or write some info you know about it and then people who might know what vehicle it is can identify it. Might be a bad idea, but there are so many unknown vehicles for some, including me that wants to find some info, at least a name on the vehicles and links to more pictures/info. And please do not post like 10 vehicles at once. I've found some quite unusuall or some vehicles that i've never seen before which i'm posting here;

http://i26.tinypic.com/eg91lu.jpg


- Shroom

[Zeke Wolff]

Hey!

I thought about making like a thread where you post a picture of a vehicle or write some info you know about it and then people who might know what vehicle it is can identify it. Might be a bad idea, but there are so many unknown vehicles for some, including me that wants to find some info, at least a name on the vehicles and links to more pictures/info. And please do not post like 10 vehicles at once. I've found some quite unusuall or some vehicles that i've never seen before which i'm posting here;

http://i26.tinypic.com/eg91lu.jpg


- Shroom

Easy. It´s a 7.5cm Selbstfahrlafette L/40.8 Modell 1. (Three prototypes produces, never saw action).

It was designed in 1934 by Rheinmetall-Borsig. All three prototypes varied in height, width and lenght compared to each other. It would have a crew of 4, and weighted 6.08 tons. Armor thickness 20mm to 8mm. The 7.5 cm L/40.8 was in a fully rotating turret and had a depression of -9 and a elevation of +20. Speed maximum 60 km/h. An improved gun, 7.5 cm L/40.8 Modell 8, was ordered in 1936 and this features a muzzle-brake among other developments but just as the Modell 1, it wasnt built as anything else than a prototype.

~Zeke.

[HrcAk47]

Hm... that would make it more than a match for almost every tank 'till 1942... Cool... :realbig:

[TTorpedo]

Now is Zeke Woff turn to post a pic. The one o identifys the pic as to come with a new one!

[Mushroomcar]

Oh, so it was a prototype?
Really amazing facts and interesting.
Here comes next one!
It's a little vehicle with both tracks and wheels, seems to be a little troop carrier.

http://i29.tinypic.com/35lyxwl.jpg

By the way, all are free to post in this thread, please do! :D

- Shroom

[TTorpedo]

lol they don´t look very happy! where are the guys legs on the front row!

Ps: I don´t have a clue

[Zeke Wolff]

Oh, so it was a prototype?
Really amazing facts and interesting.
Here comes next one!
It's a little vehicle with both tracks and wheels, seems to be a little troop carrier.

http://i29.tinypic.com/35lyxwl.jpg

By the way, all are free to post in this thread, please do! :D

- Shroom

Ok, this was a tricky one. I knew that I´d seen it before but it took me a while to remember exactly where. And funnily, when I was shuffling thru one of my ref.books today in a desperate hunt for another vehicle, I found it.

The picture shows us a Austro-Daimler Motor Karette (ADMK for short) also known as "Mulus" (Mule). It was a wheel-and-track machine gun carrier. When running on tracks the front wheels and axles swung forward and up to clear the ground, whilst the rear wheels were removed completly and stored on special brackets meant for this purpose. Maximum speed on tracks 15 km/h, and on wheels, 45 km/h. Circa 334 of these curious, unarmed and poorly armored vehicles were ordered and built in 1935 and they equipped the machine gun companies of the Austrian Army until 1938. When Germany annexed Austria, a few of these machinegun carriers were used by the Wehrmacht but they never saw any action.

~Zeke.

[Mad Cat]

I've always wanted to see the minis and oddities incorporated into the game but it seems it is never to be :( .

[Mushroomcar]

Oh, so it was a prototype?
Really amazing facts and interesting.
Here comes next one!
It's a little vehicle with both tracks and wheels, seems to be a little troop carrier.

http://i29.tinypic.com/35lyxwl.jpg

By the way, all are free to post in this thread, please do! :D

- Shroom

Ok, this was a tricky one. I knew that I´d seen it before but it took me a while to remember exactly where. And funnily, when I was shuffling thru one of my ref.books today in a desperate hunt for another vehicle, I found it.

The picture shows us a Austro-Daimler Motor Karette (ADMK for short) also known as "Mulus" (Mule). It was a wheel-and-track machine gun carrier. When running on tracks the front wheels and axles swung forward and up to clear the ground, whilst the rear wheels were removed completly and stored on special brackets meant for this purpose. Maximum speed on tracks 15 km/h, and on wheels, 45 km/h. Circa 334 of these curious, unarmed and poorly armored vehicles were ordered and built in 1935 and they equipped the machine gun companies of the Austrian Army until 1938. When Germany annexed Austria, a few of these machinegun carriers were used by the Wehrmacht but they never saw any action.

~Zeke.

Well when i found the picture it was named ADMK so it's definitly right! It sure is a little fascinating vehicle.
Next picture, do someone else want to post or shall i? (maybe rude to you others if only i post..) Zeke maybe?

- Shroom

[Orrie]

I can post one :)

I give you this, the X tank!

http://i26.tinypic.com/2sbjpqc.jpg

GL-HF :grin:

[Cromtec]

Neubaufahrzeug (New construction Vehicle).
Krupp Version, coaxial guns.

[Zeke Wolff]

I have a other nice one to identify:

http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/Whatsthis.jpg

It is the VK3001(H) --- a medium tank that never evolved into anything else than a prototype. It was designed to have 50mm frontal armor, 30mm side armor and 50mm rear armor. It would be armed with either a 75mm KwK L24 (same weapon as carried by the early Pz IV´s) or a 10.5 cm KwK L28. In both designs the main gun would be supported by two MG34 (one coaxial, one hull).

The prototype seen in the picture is undergoing trials, with weights to simulate the turret. The prototypes never saw combat, but were kept as trial and in tank driver training schools.

More interesting is the fact that two of the 4 prototype chassis were later converted into the 12.8cm Selbstfahrkafette L/61 "Sturer Emil". Both "Sturer Emils" were sent to Russia were they did a good job at knocking out Russian tanks. One was destroyed in action and the other captured and later displayed at exhibitions held in 1944. On in-action photos of the vehicle, no less than 22 victory markings can be seen on the gun barrel.



And a last one is a german weapon, can you identify this:

http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/Whatsthis2.jpg

Hmmm... nope... but towed guns arent my kind of thing... Interesting photo though since it shows us the rear part of a Sd.Kfz. 251. However, the photo reminds me of a Russian outdoor war memorial?

EDIT: With some help from a friend, so has it been identified as a Salvenmaschinenkanone (SMK) 3 or Flakwaffe 3 - an experimental Flak gun.

~Zeke.

[Matty148]

heres a strange one

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/matty_148/kubin8.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

Not that strange actually... :P

It is an "Alkett-Raeumgeraet", a prototype minefield clearing vehicle. The vehicle weighted 55 tons and had a maximum speed of 15 to 20 KPH. The prototype is now exhibited at Kubinka, Moscow.

~Zeke.

[TTorpedo]

Its a MecWarrior!

Zeke :toast:
Somewhere there must be a piece of WW2 machinary you dont know about!

Gonna find it :twisted:

[Zeke Wolff]

Its a MecWarrior!

Zeke :toast:
Somewhere there must be a piece of WW2 machinary you dont know about!

Gonna find it :twisted:

You´ll never be able to find a vehicle that I dont know about... :twisted: Nah, just pick some obscure Russian vehicle and you´ll most likely succeed in your quest. :realbig: My main interest is German WWII stuff and to a lesser degree, Allied stuff.

~Zeke.

[Mushroomcar]

Lets find something then.. ^^

http://i30.tinypic.com/ok09c6.jpg
What about these? From the site i saw them on they said that these tanks were german tanks that they were built to look like the similar allied tank. (don't know it's name).

http://i30.tinypic.com/2namn29.jpg
Well this is an odd kubelwagen, never seen something like it.

http://i29.tinypic.com/28wgytk.jpg
This maybe isn't german..?

- Shroom

[TTorpedo]

That "Kubel" looks very stylish, shure its a ww2 picture?

Anyway i fount the ubberstrangest thing! And its a German Tank!

[Zeke Wolff]

This is a sole surviving Krupp Kugelpanzer... :P

the Kugelpanzer (Engl. "Ball Tank" is one of the most rare and strange armored fighting vehicles ever built. Only one example of this Reconnaissance Rollzeug (Recon Rolling Vehicle) were captured by the Russians and today it is a part of the Kubinka Museum´s collection of German Armored Vehicles. It is simply listed as item #37 and has been painted gloss white.

It was a German made vehicle which were shipped to Japan via technology transfer. This particular example was captured by the Russian Army in 1945 in Manchuria. It had 5 mm or armor on its hull and was powered by a single cylinder two-stroke engine. Not very much is known about it, and no samples are allowed to be taken etc.

Personally, I aint so sure that it was ever used...?

~Zeke.

[Zeke Wolff]

Lets find something then.. ^^

http://i30.tinypic.com/ok09c6.jpg
What about these? From the site i saw them on they said that these tanks were german tanks that they were built to look like the similar allied tank. (don't know it's name).

This is some kind of conversion built on the chassis of the Pz I. Look carefully at the lower front armor and you´ll recognize it as a Pz I chassis. My guess is that it is supposed to look like either a M3 Stuart or a M5 Stuart.


http://i30.tinypic.com/2namn29.jpg
Well this is an odd kubelwagen, never seen something like it.

Not a clue, but then, it isnt an armored vehicle and thus, no fun to read about... :) However, the front grill reminds me of a kidney shape and we all know which car company who has kidney shaped grills, right? (B.M.W.)... but it´s just a guess.


http://i29.tinypic.com/28wgytk.jpg
This maybe isn't german..?

This is indeed a German vehicle, or more precisely, its a Krupp-Daimler Panzerwagen Sd.Kfz. 3 M1574. However, it isnt a Wehrmacht vehicle --- it was developed for the German Reichswehr and was designed in the late 1920´s on the chassis of a Daimler DZVR. 105 were manufactured and in 1935 the existing vehicles were relegated to tactical training duties.

~Zeke.

[Cromtec]

Looks like either a very rare Kübelwagen on tracks, or the "Kätzchen" (troop/ammo carrier) not sure.

[Zeke Wolff]

Looks like either a very rare Kübelwagen on tracks, or the "Kätzchen" (troop/ammo carrier) not sure.

Cromtec´s first suggestion is the correct one. It is a halftrack variant of the Kübelwagen. Only prototypes were made (two different versions) but neither one reached production status.

The "Kätchen" looked very different with large roadwheels and whilst some references tells us that it was designed as a APC, some more recent ones tells us that it wasnt, and that in fact it was designed as a ammunition carrier. Since as far as I know, no Kätchens survived the war (only a few was ever made) I guess we will never know which idea is the correct one.

~Zeke.

[Matty148]

This topic should be remamed test zeke :lol: :toast:

heres 2 more
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/matty_148/10.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/matty_148/1.jpg

[HrcAk47]

To matty:

They look Russian to me...

Big one looks like some tractor conversion, while the smaller one is a mgun tankette, a mobile mgun nest. Wikipedia has some data on both of them, i think. :)

[Tigerkiller]

Second tank reminds me of the 'Su' series. First somehow reminds me of a very early Vickers Tank/Variant :huh: .

[Terror]

http://www.v2rocket.com/start/scale/fr/101-3.jpg

[Mushroomcar]

http://www.v2rocket.com/start/scale/fr/101-3.jpg

Found some fotos of it. I think it's a sd.kfz 9? with a commanders room?

http://i28.tinypic.com/14v0gus.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/21j82dt.jpg

But what is that trailer? I have no clue..

- Shroom

[Instinct]

But what is that trailer? I have no clue..

This is a mobile bavarian beer tent!
And what you state as a commanders room is an early stealth prototype of a beer barrel.

Obvious, eh? ... :ninja:

[Mushroomcar]

Hehehe :lol:
But now i became unsure if you were joking or not, could be true though! :wilting:

- Shroom

[Jozor]

Look's like its used in the V2 launch sites.. Rember watching a program on it long time ago, but thats a few years ago. :x

So the trailer could be the bit delopyed for putting the V2, looks about right, becuase it has that point and the turnhing bit for aiming as far as i rember.

But, I could be totaly wrong, my memory blured.. :x

[Matty148]

Look's like its used in the V2 launch sites.. Rember watching a program on it long time ago, but thats a few years ago. :x

So the trailer could be the bit delopyed for putting the V2, looks about right, becuase it has that point and the turnhing bit for aiming as far as i rember.

But, I could be totaly wrong, my memory blured.. :x

yep jozors right the trailer is the launch platform and the halftrack is the command/launch control vehicle.

[Tigerkiller]

It looks like the vehicle that was used for the rare "Wasserfall".

[killzoiker]

lol look at this

not sure if it is ww2 but its wierd

heres the link http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2223/187 ... 164706.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2223/1878409145_9bce164706.jpg)

[Matty148]

well its some sort of russian artillary.

[killzoiker]

i bet its just a pices of wood the cannon , just so they could scare everyone

[HrcAk47]

Not really. And to improve the effect, those cannons were firing tac nuqs. Be scared :twisted:

[Tigerkiller]

Looks like the 21cm Moerscer Artillery.

[Zeke Wolff]

http://i30.tinypic.com/2namn29.jpg
Well this is an odd kubelwagen, never seen something like it.

Finally found this one --- its a Tempo Field Car. Unfortunately I do not have any more information regarding it. I´d only seen it once before and then it had a spare wheel attached to the left side.

~Zeke.

[HrcAk47]

Thehehe, Zekepedia did it again :lol: :lol:

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

This picture was taken near a sandpit in 1944 its a very famous tank with white base color....:realbig:
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/20080424102857lol2.jpg

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

it's an easy one for Zeke but let the others find out :)
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/20080424102741pic.jpg

[TTorpedo]

Thanks Zeke, That Tempo is beautiful, and seems do have 4 steering wheels!

[Kettenhund]

The correct designation is "Tempo G1200"

http://www.autobild.de/ir_img/1665026_88c751eef8.jpg

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

another one
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/td.jpg

[M_Wittmann]

This picture was taken near a sandpit in 1944 its a very famous tank with white base color....:realbig:
This one was easy ... It's a tiger I ;)

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

[quote="coRDHA_Jeff JN":3cqbbc90]This picture was taken near a sandpit in 1944 its a very famous tank with white base color....:realbig:
This one was easy ... It's a tiger I ;)[/quote:3cqbbc90]
Bingo!!! :wow: 2 more to go. I help a little the first one is a Russian Tank the other is a Romanian.

[M_Wittmann]

The second one seems to be a modified captured Pz III with a 76mm gun... :huh:

[Zeke Wolff]

it's an easy one for Zeke but let the others find out :)

Yep, this one was a easy one... :P

Its a Su-76(i). A Russian captured Pz III modified into a self-propelled tank destroyer armed with a 76.2mm Tank Gun S1 with a ammo stowage of 98 rounds. About 200 (some sources says that the actual number being made was 201) of these modified vehicles was created by the Russians. According to sources they were made up from not only captured Pz III´s and STuG III´s but also from Pz IVs, but I have yet to see a photo of a modified Pz IV.

~Zeke.

[Zeke Wolff]

another one

Its a Romanian Maresal tank destroyer. Sources claims that ten was produced but none saw any action. The Red Army confiscated all of them and ordered the project to be canceled. As far as I know, all ten was destructed when confiscated...?

~Zeke.

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

[quote="coRDHA_Jeff JN":6mgw7u5f]it's an easy one for Zeke but let the others find out :)

Yep, this one was a easy one... :P

Its a Su-76(i). A Russian captured Pz III modified into a self-propelled tank destroyer armed with a 76.2mm Tank Gun S1 with a ammo stowage of 98 rounds. About 200 (some sources says that the actual number being made was 201) of these modified vehicles was created by the Russians. According to sources they were made up from not only captured Pz III´s and STuG III´s but also from Pz IVs, but I have yet to see a photo of a modified Pz IV.

~Zeke.[/quote:6mgw7u5f]
The winner is Zeke again :wow: :booyah:

"In 1943 it was decided to use big storages of German tanks to convert them to assault guns designated SU-76i ("inostrannij" = foreign).
Modifications consisted of the removal of the turret and upper part of the hull in case of PzKpfwIII / PzKpfwIV and the superstructure in case of StugIII, while all other components remain unchanged. Modified vehicles were mounted with welded boxy superstructures (forward armor 35mm, side and rear armor 15-25mm) which housed 76.2mm F-34 or 76.2mm ZIS-5 tank gun and storage space for 98 rounds. SU-76i was operated by the crew of four, who had submachineguns and hand grenades for local defense. A driver used unchanged German equipment, while other equipment was of Soviet origin. SU-76i weighted about 22t; it could travel at the maximum speed of 40km/h as the base tanks. 201 of SU-76i were built, including 20 command SU-76i.
In Augst 1943, 1902th SAP had 15 SU-76i and five SU-76. Also, 1901st SAP and 1903rd SAP were equipped by SU-76i."

http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/su_76i2.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/su76i.jpg

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Russians gave different "signs" to the captured tanks.
German Russian
Pz.I------------T-1
Pz.II-----------T-2
Pz.III----------T-3
Pz.IV--------- T-4
Pz.V-----------T-5 Pantera
Pz.VI----------T-6 Tigr
StuG.III--------SU-75
Nashorn-------SU-88
Wespe---------SU-105
Hummel-------SU-150

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

[quote="coRDHA_Jeff JN":3u4inem8]another one

Its a Romanian Maresal tank destroyer. Sources claims that ten was produced but none saw any action. The Red Army confiscated all of them and ordered the project to be canceled. As far as I know, all ten was destructed when confiscated...?

~Zeke.[/quote:3u4inem8]
You are right its the Maresal

"Romanian designers produced designs of tank destroyer, very similar to Hetzer designated Maresal MO-4, armed with 75mm Resita M1943 gun (based on both Soviet 76.2mm ZIS-3 and German 75mm Pak 40 guns). The vehicle itself was based on captured Soviet T-60 chassis just as previous designs designated M-00, M-01, M-02 and M-03. In December of 1943, plans were presented to German designers, who then utilized some of its features in Hetzer's development. In March of 1944, Maresal's development was continued due to Fuhrer's support and further variants MO-5 and MO-6 were planned. In May of 1944, prototype of Maresal MO-4 was produced and after extensive tests it proved to be better than German Sturmgeschutz III(40) Ausf G and 75mm Resita M1943 gun proved to be better than German 75mm Pak 40 gun. Right away 1000 vehicles were ordered to be produced by Rofiger works. It was also planned to start production at plants both in Germany and Romania. In June of 1944, Germans also proposed to produce Flakpanzer Maresal. In August of 1944, first pre-production series of 10 was produced along with prototype of Maresal MO-5. Further production did not take place since Romania was "liberated" by the Red Army and on October 26th of 1944, Russians ordered all exisiting vehicles and prototypes to be scrapped and cancelled entire project."

Zeke did u find a better picture about the Maresal? I only find 2 pictures they are both not the best.

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Lovley: :D
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/maresal_is2.gif

[Zeke Wolff]

Zeke did u find a better picture about the Maresal? I only find 2 pictures they are both not the best.

Sorry, the only four photos of this, according to the Romanians, forerunner to the Hetzer that I know of, is all located on this site ---> http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/roma ... tanks.html (http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/romania/romania-tanks.html) but unfortunately the photos arent of any better quality than can be found in any books... :(

~Zeke.

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Some more info about the Maresal:

"I found a very interesting document at the archives of the Romanian Army General staff in Bucharest. The document is a report written by colonel R. Davidescu who accompanied 2 German tank experts (Ventz and Naymann) who came to see the prototype of the Maresal in January 1944.
The Germans were very impressed by the vehicle. All the aspects of the Maresal were tested and here are the conclusion of the Germans:
1. Weight. Maresal was considered to have a very good power to weight ratio and very good speed.
2. Armour. The Germans considered that the armour was enough to protect the crew against small arms and Soviet anti-tank rifles. They advised not to increase the armor because the best defence for a vehicle is speed and Maresal had a good speed. They were impressed by the original turtle-shape, low profile and easy to produce.
3. Gun. The Resita gun was considered good enough against any Soviet tank.
4. Ammo on board. Maresal carried less ammo than the Stug's but it was considered enough because the Resita gun had excellent balistic qualities, allowing it to fire more accurately.
5. Engine. Good.
6. Crew. It seems that Maresal had an original driving system allowing the driver to steer the vehicle with his feet and aim the gun with his hands, at the same time. The Germans were very intrigued by this system, requested several tests on the field and even drived the Maresal themselves. The verdict was that this system was effective and allowed the Maresal to have a only 2-man crew. Ventz said: "It is incredible that you found a way to reduce the crew, we failed to find such a solution all those years."
7. Off-road performance. The Germans thought that the distance to the ground is too low and requested several tests in muddy terrain but the Maresal performed well.
Before leaving, the 2 officers said that Maresal is a very good AFV and they learned a lot from it. Ventz said that after Romania will have 1000 Maresals the Romanian army will be much more effective, and the Maresal will prove to be "ein grosser Hetzer" for the Russians."

What i really want to know is the 75mm Resita M1943 guns penetration data if anybody know it plz share with us.

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Some "new" pictures:
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/nemtom1.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/nemtom3.jpg

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Different idea:
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/nemtom2.jpg

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Mad Max :D
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/mad+max.png

[Mushroomcar]

Well i don't know those appart from that they are obviously german.. xD But i always liked that one.. Should be cool in MoW, reminds me of the cool situation when the FoW demo came, where you could capture a little AA in the demo with some mods! :realbig:

Here is one little nice Gepard AA, but i don't know so much about it and only seen it in one old strategy game! We need it for MoW! :P
http://i30.tinypic.com/2sbjw2v.jpg
I would like it because it would be quite easy to take down, effective against infantry and light vehicles! You could shoot the guys managing the turret and maybe steal it somehow!

***
Hey i include a new thing in this thread, you can post any vehicle that you would like too see in MoW and try to motivate why it would fit in MoW. (Still real pictures of vehicles and therefor fits the thread).
***

[C0ntrol]

I choose you, Kettenkrad!

http://www.kettenkrad.com/Kettenkrad.gif
Even though it wouldn't mean a sh*t gameplay wise, Kettenkrads could be loads of fun. Just the look of it makes you want to hug... I mean drive it. I have a moped (50cc motorcycle for those who don't know) and I have somekind of fever to getting a real motorcycle (Kawasaki Ninja... *drool*), but if I could choose between this and the Ninja.. Well, no doubt I would go for Kettenkrad :D

[Terror]

http://i32.tinypic.com/2zea03l.jpg

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

http://i32.tinypic.com/2zea03l.jpg
It's not a photo plz dont post graphics.....
use google look what i found about 5 mins.
Japanise Type 95 Heavy Tank
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/jap+typ+95+heavy.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/jap+typ+95.jpg

[C0ntrol]

Hey cordha_Jeff, please be kind and use this code when posting pictures
image url goes here
:)

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Hey cordha_Jeff, please be kind and use this code when posting pictures
image url goes here
:)
What is the problem with the attachment???

[Instinct]

Hey cordha_Jeff, please be kind and use this code when posting pictures
image url goes here
:)
What is the problem with the attachment???
That there is a certain limit for all users and it would be nice if you use the image code if those pictures are available on the net.

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Hey cordha_Jeff, please be kind and use this code when posting pictures
image url goes here
:)
What is the problem with the attachment???
That there is a certain limit for all users and it would be nice if you use the image code if those pictures are available on the net.
Ok i changed every picture and uploaded to a picture site.
offtopic:
Now ,that you are here already I would ask something because I see it in that manner ,that in the cd key topic you do not want to answer very much. What about the beta? We got 0 usefull answer from u in the last 2-3 week about the beta.

[Terror]

It is a photo jeff.

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

It is a photo jeff.
No it isnt just look at "my" photos and your graphic or hand drawing the rivets do not show on it yet and have some dimensional problems so it isnt a photo for sure.

[HrcAk47]

It is a photo jeff.
No it isnt just look at "my" photos and your graphic or hand drawing the rivets do not show on it yet and have some dimensional problems so it isnt a photo for sure.

Does anyone actually care? :P

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

It is a photo jeff.
No it isnt just look at "my" photos and your graphic or hand drawing the rivets do not show on it yet and have some dimensional problems so it isnt a photo for sure.

Does anyone actually care? :P
I see that it does not interest you because you did not recognize/post one single photo yet.

[HrcAk47]

Do I look like I need to? :P


I see no problem with Terror's pic. Looks pretty much as the real thing. That tank existed and saw combat, graphic looks like the real deal - what seems to be the problem? :confused:

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Do I look like I need to? :P


I see no problem with Terror's pic. Looks pretty much as the real thing. That tank existed and saw combat, graphic looks like the real deal - what seems to be the problem? :confused:

If u can find photos why posting graphics...
If u dont care or dont need to than dont write to here or at least try to post something ontopic (pictures or some usefull info about the photos). If u have problem with me write a pm kid and stop flamewar this topic is for the tanks and photos....

[Zeke Wolff]

Seriously Cordha_JeffN, I do think you need to take a step back. When Mushroomcar started this thread, he stated that you could post a picture of a vehicle, not necessarily a photo of a vehicle. A picture mean for example, a photo, a drawing, etc. I had no problem with Terror´s picture, I´ve seen far worse than that in several of my reference books.

And besides, who was it that posted a picture of a Lego tank recently? :realbig: I mean, if we´re going to be serious in this thread, post serious stuff and not toys... :P

~Zeke.

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Thats what i found about the Type 95 Heavy Tank:

"Only one heavy tank of the multi-turret class seems to have been field tested
under combat conditions. This was the Type 95 Heavy Tank, developed in 1934.
It was quite an interesting vehicle, with a top speed of 13.7mph and three
distinct turrets. The largest of these held a 70mm gun and 6.5mm LMG in the
rear; a second, mounted just below and to the fore of the 70mm turret, mounted
a 37mm. To the rear of the vehicle, the third turret housed an additional 6.5mm
LMG. Curiously, the Type 95 Heavy had no forward facing machine guns.

The Type 95 Heavy was field tested in China and/or Manchuria on a number of
occasions, showed up in the occasional state photograph, but seems to done
its greatest duty as a sort of show vehicle for the Imperial Army to prove its
martial prowess. In practice, the Army seems to have despised the design,
finding it to be far too slow and, therefore, far too vulnerable on the vast
battlefields of China and Manchuria.

Most likely, the single Type 95 Heavy saw very little, if any, combat. During the
actions in Manchuria in the 1945 campaign, however, a number of prototype
vehicles were thrown in the path of the advancing Soviets in an attempt to slow
them down. It is certainly at least marginally possible that the Type 95 saw
action in these desperate attacks."

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Seriously Cordha_JeffN, I do think you need to take a step back. When Mushroomcar started this thread, he stated that you could post a picture of a vehicle, not necessarily a photo of a vehicle. A picture mean for example, a photo, a drawing, etc. I had no problem with Terror´s picture, I´ve seen far worse than that in several of my reference books.

And besides, who was it that posted a picture of a Lego tank recently? :realbig: I mean, if we´re going to be serious in this thread, post serious stuff and not toys... :P

~Zeke.

Yeah the lego was a joke but hey thats a photo too :realbig: I have no problem with Terror he try to post a very rare vehicle but if he know the name of the vehicle he could post a photo.I really dont like to this nice lil topic went to a 'drawing subject interest group' with silly graphics or paper prototypes. Photo is always better than a graphic or drawing. Thats my problem. but as i see you are the only one who "try"(know) to find out what is on the picture.

[Mad Cat]

It's not a photo plz dont post graphics.....
use google look what i found about 5 mins.

Does anyone actually care? :P
Nope, not a bit. This argument is now officially over. Drawings are pictures, says so in the dictionary. There are no restrictions made by the author of this thread either on the type of graphics that may be posted. Get over it.

[Mushroomcar]

Yes stop the war..

coRDHA_Jeff JN, please don't be so aggressive in your words.. Especially by saying "kid", that's just lame.

When i typed pictures i meant anything that shows a ww2 vehicle in a serious way. (that funny lego tiger is an exception). :wilting: It's also allowed to post prototypes that was meant to be in the war and even older vehicles from ww2 that may have taken into ww2.

Only cause some people don't post pictures or comment them doesn't mean that they can't. They do not need to identify, it's allowed to discuss them too. People don't need to know all details of tanks as some do here to feel home in my thread.

btw, that picture could be a photo, maybe a distorted photo. Maybe it failed when they "pressed it out", who knows. It could very well be a drawing too..

So lets make peace now and go on vehicle hunting! :ninja:
http://www.z-panzer.com/PT16.jpg

This photo looks like a fat armoured train with cannons, seems to be fitted for city tramtrail.

- Shroom

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Yes stop the war..

coRDHA_Jeff JN, please don't be so aggressive in your words.. Especially by saying "kid", that's just lame.

When i typed pictures i meant anything that shows a ww2 vehicle in a serious way. (that funny lego tiger is an exception). :wilting: It's also allowed to post prototypes that was meant to be in the war and even older vehicles from ww2 that may have taken into ww2.

Only cause some people don't post pictures or comment them doesn't mean that they can't. They do not need to identify, it's allowed to discuss them too. People don't need to know all details of tanks as some do here to feel home in my thread.

btw, that picture could be a photo, maybe a distorted photo. Maybe it failed when they "pressed it out", who knows. It could very well be a drawing too..

So lets make peace now and go on vehicle hunting! :ninja:
http://www.z-panzer.com/PT16.jpg

This photo looks like a fat armoured train with cannons, seems to be fitted for city tramtrail.

- Shroom

Yeah what he said isnt lame "Does anyone actually care?"...and isnt aggressive...

Why is it so hard to get my point... i repeat it Why posting drawings if u can find photos??? If u cant find a photo that vehicle only a paper vehicle and as much as i know paper tanks isnt in the ww2 :brickwall: .

P.S.: u are the first who can write my nick correctly :beer: or want to...

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Mushroomcar's photo is the:
PANZERBETRIEBWAGEN 16
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/PanzerTrain.jpg

more about it:
http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun ... wagen.html (http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/Content/Armoured%20Trains/Germany/panzerbetriebwagen.html)

[Mad Cat]

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s108/MadCatOmni/Soldiers%20emoticons/soldierg_wow.gif Now that would definitely be a cool item to put in the game with a big enough map.

[Lunex]

In Fow one of the later russian campaign missons features an armoured train.
This mission plays in an railwaystation and later on this Train arrives...
A really ugly suprise :wilting: ^^

[Tigerkiller]

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/leo_57.jpg
One of my favourite Light tanks. Isn't it just cute? :realbig:
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/luchs_ac.jpg

[C0ntrol]

First one is VK 903b (Ausf H) and it was armed with 50mm Pak 38 L/60 gun. And the second is the beloved Panzerspahwagen II Ausf L Luchs with its 20mm KwK 38 L/55

:beer:

[Tigerkiller]

This is a prototype drawn up of a Panzer IV with the Panther's turret.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/pz4_pz5.jpg
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/bru4c.jpg

[[SOE]Wolfi]

i know this i not a vehicle, but i have no idea what kind of aa gun this should be ?! can somebody help me??
http://www.tigercollectibles.co.uk/photos/lg/flak_36.jpg

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/37mmflak36_02.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/flakGuns.gif
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/Sdk6_2.jpg
3.7 cm FlaK 36

[M_Wittmann]

http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/37mmflak36_02.jpg
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/flakGuns.gif
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/Sdk6_2.jpg
3.7 cm FlaK 36
Seeing those pics I wonder if these kind of anti-aircraft weapons were actually effective... :?

Battleship Yamato had a bunch of them and, if I'm not mistaken, it didn't shot down any aircraft in its last battle...

[Hartmann]

Offcourse they were effective. A 3.7cm shell will do massive damage to any airplane, most likely even bring it down with 1 shot.

[Albus]

http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/Sdk6_2.jpg

This is vehicle can be a SdKfz6/2 ( 5 tons) or SdKfz 7/2 ( 8 Tons ) self-propelled 37 mm antiaircraft gun.

http://www.panzer-reich.co.uk/images/haftracks/SdKfz/3-7cm-flak-36-37-43-auf-selbstfahrlafette-sdkfz-7-2/SdKfz-1.jpeg

And this is the same SdKfz 7/2 (8 tons) with the armored cabin.

[M_Wittmann]

Offcourse they were effective. A 3.7cm shell will do massive damage to any airplane, most likely even bring it down with 1 shot.

Of course a 3,7 cm shell will be deathly, if you can actualy hit the plane... That's what I wonder, if those antiaircraft systems can properly target and hit the 700+ km/h fighter planes... :?

[HrcAk47]

37 mm FlaKs are between the 20 and 88 mm ones by functionality.

It has a high rate of fire, enabling it to send tons of AP bullets into the air, fast.

It also has a relatively large calibre, enabling the use of airburst rounds, so its a proximity weapon as well.

Now combine the high rate and airburst capabilities :grin:

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Offcourse they were effective. A 3.7cm shell will do massive damage to any airplane, most likely even bring it down with 1 shot.

Of course a 3,7 cm shell will be deathly, if you can actualy hit the plane... That's what I wonder, if those antiaircraft systems can properly target and hit the 700+ km/h fighter planes... :?
Which plane cruising Speed is 700+ km/h??? lol only very lil number of planes can exceed 700km/h.

[M_Wittmann]

[quote=Hartmann]Offcourse they were effective. A 3.7cm shell will do massive damage to any airplane, most likely even bring it down with 1 shot.

Of course a 3,7 cm shell will be deathly, if you can actualy hit the plane... That's what I wonder, if those antiaircraft systems can properly target and hit the 700+ km/h fighter planes... :?
Which plane cruising Speed is 700+ km/h??? lol only very lil number of planes can exceed 700km/h.[/quote:ebc2ole9]

Well most of the WW2 fighter planes can reach a maximum speed between 600 and 700 km/h. I don't know if these values can be applied in combat situations.(that's not exacly what I said before...sorry for that +100 km/h mistake). My point was that the high speed and maneuverability make them very difficult to hit. And I put the example of the Yamato crowded deck with docens of Flacks that couldn't manage to hit a single plane.

Is there any data with statistics of how the planes were actually shot down in WW2? By other fighters? By heavy AA guns? Light AA guns? etc... Which was the most effective AA weapon?

EDIT: I found something interesting about mechanized tracking and targeting in the Wiki (of course :realbig: ) I thought all the AA guns were moved manually, but increasing speed of the new fighter planes led to an automatization of the AA systems:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerrison_Predictor

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/20080627123100flak.jpg

Flak units

The basic German Flak unit was divided into four main types: Schwere (heavy 8.8cm–12.8cm), Leichte (light 2cm-5cm), Gemischte (mixed with both heavy and light guns) and Scheinwerfer (searchlight) units. These were further sub-divided into fully motorised, semi-motorised or static units.

A standard heavy Flak unit (Zug) consisted in 1939 of four guns, a power unit, rangefinder, sound locator (not always) and a searchlight unit. The guns were laid out in the corners of a square, with the power unit and the rangefinder in the centre. There was at least 50m between the guns and the rangefinders to protect the operators and their delicate instruments against the muzzle flash and blast. In 1941, the number of guns was changed to six guns, which were laid out in a circle, or a circle of five with the sixth gun in the centre. The power units and rangefinders were still placed in the centre or as in the latter layout slightly to the side of the guns. From 1944 onwards, two units often worked together with a single power/rangefinder unit in the middle of the group (see Fig.2 below).

In 1942 radars were introduced, and in 1943-44 8 guns became normal. Batteries using both radar and searchlights together were to be found often with the searchlights linked to the radars. The searchlights were always placed quite a distance from the guns, as they were an attractive target for Allied turret gunners. From 1944 until the end of the war, several heavy Flak units were bought together to form the so called Grossbatterien of 16 to 24 guns. Sometimes up to 32 guns were seen.

[stealth_756]

Don't ask I found it on some fourms a few mintues ago, anyone know what it is or something?
http://www.filecram.com/files/wbSPORTINGLIFEtank_wideweb__470x227,0.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

Don't ask I found it on some fourms a few mintues ago, anyone know what it is or something?
http://www.filecram.com/files/wbSPORTINGLIFEtank_wideweb__470x227,0.jpg

No need to worry, it´s just someones wetdream. No such thing was ever produced by Germany during WWII. Don´t believe everything you read online... :)

~Zeke.

[stealth_756]

No it was from a thread of epic pics I just though someone could tell me if the Germans gave it a name, and though it was worth posting about it here.

[filon102]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a3/richard9311/goo.gif

hahahaha :lol:

i like it :hurray:

[stealth_756]

Filon thanks I found it when I was web surfing the other day.

[HrcAk47]

you know, it kinda sucks to have sig bigger than all your posts squeezed together... :P

[stealth_756]

Well know a way to srink it? besides photoshop or gimp?

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

Don't ask I found it on some fourms a few mintues ago, anyone know what it is or something?
http://www.filecram.com/files/wbSPORTINGLIFEtank_wideweb__470x227,0.jpg

Landkreuzer P 1500 Monster
On 23 June 1942 the German Ministry of Armaments proposed a 1,000 tonne tank — the Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte. Adolf Hitler himself expressed interest in the project and go-ahead was granted. In December the same year, Krupp designed an even larger 1,500 tonne tank — the P 1500 Monster.
In early 1943, Albert Speer, the Minister for Armaments, cancelled the project.

This "land cruiser" was planned as a self-propelled platform for the 80-cm K (E) guns also made by Krupp — the largest artillery weapons ever built. Their 7 tonne projectiles could be fired up to 37 km (23 miles) and were designed for use against heavily fortified targets.

The P 1500 would have dwarfed even the largest super-heavy tanks in development at the time — such as the German Panzer VIII Maus, the biggest built during the war. The Maus weighed 188 tonnes against the P 1500's proposed 1,500 tonnes. For comparison, the German heavy tank Tiger I weighed 57 tonnes.

The P 1500 was to have 250 mm frontal armour and be propelled by two or four diesel submarine engines. In addition to its main 80 cm gun, it would have been armed with two 15 cm sFH 18 heavy howitzers and multiple MG 151 autocannon.

[stealth_756]

ok cool thanks for the info

[Orrie]

[quote="stealth_756":3j8uxkc1]Don't ask I found it on some fourms a few mintues ago, anyone know what it is or something?
http://www.filecram.com/files/wbSPORTINGLIFEtank_wideweb__470x227,0.jpg

Landkreuzer P 1500 Monster
On 23 June 1942 the German Ministry of Armaments proposed a 1,000 tonne tank — the Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte. Adolf Hitler himself expressed interest in the project and go-ahead was granted. In December the same year, Krupp designed an even larger 1,500 tonne tank — the P 1500 Monster.
In early 1943, Albert Speer, the Minister for Armaments, cancelled the project.

This "land cruiser" was planned as a self-propelled platform for the 80-cm K (E) guns also made by Krupp — the largest artillery weapons ever built. Their 7 tonne projectiles could be fired up to 37 km (23 miles) and were designed for use against heavily fortified targets.

The P 1500 would have dwarfed even the largest super-heavy tanks in development at the time — such as the German Panzer VIII Maus, the biggest built during the war. The Maus weighed 188 tonnes against the P 1500's proposed 1,500 tonnes. For comparison, the German heavy tank Tiger I weighed 57 tonnes.

The P 1500 was to have 250 mm frontal armour and be propelled by two or four diesel submarine engines. In addition to its main 80 cm gun, it would have been armed with two 15 cm sFH 18 heavy howitzers and multiple MG 151 autocannon.[/quote:3j8uxkc1]

*hark*Wikipedia*hark* ummhh.

Either the way thats in fact the wrong vehicle!!

The picture is supposed to be a Landkreuzer P 1000 'Ratte' .
The LK P1500 was supposed to as yourself said, have the Schwere Güstav's gun. Not two guns.

http://www.panzerschreck.de/panzer/pzkpfw/bilder/p1500.jpg

You were close Jeff. :grin:

[Tharapita]

I dream of the day when someone makes the Ratte for FoW or MoW as a vehicle :cry:

[HrcAk47]

Jeff wrong??? :wilting: Omg, head for cover, universe is gonna collapse! :x

[Orrie]

Jeff wrong??? :wilting: Omg, head for cover, universe is gonna collapse! :x

Do you think the Hungarian Army knows more about the German Technology, then an Lufwaffe Major from Norway? :3 XD
J/K

[coRDHA_Jeff JN]

*hark*Wikipedia*hark* ummhh.

Either the way thats in fact the wrong vehicle!!

The picture is supposed to be a Landkreuzer P 1000 'Ratte' .
The LK P1500 was supposed to as yourself said, have the Schwere Güstav's gun. Not two guns.

http://www.panzerschreck.de/panzer/pzkpfw/bilder/p1500.jpg

You were close Jeff. :grin:

Yes u are right :beer2: my fault :pang: wikipedia tricked me (at least the text is good).
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/monster02.gif
thats the P1500

[Orrie]

*hark*Wikipedia*hark* ummhh.

Either the way thats in fact the wrong vehicle!!

The picture is supposed to be a Landkreuzer P 1000 'Ratte' .
The LK P1500 was supposed to as yourself said, have the Schwere Güstav's gun. Not two guns.

http://www.panzerschreck.de/panzer/pzkpfw/bilder/p1500.jpg

You were close Jeff. :grin:

Yes u are right :beer2: my fault :pang: wikipedia tricked me (at least the text is good).
http://kepfeltoltes.pirateclub.hu/pics/monster02.gif
thats the P1500

Nice and detailed picture! :D

New Challange:

Whats this sorta... ummh thingy???
Is it a man? a tank? or an missile? :huh: :realbig:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/OrriexD/NONAMECHEATING.jpg

[Rafo]

Radio-guided anti ship missile that was launched from a bomber and guided to the target by the bombardier with a wittle joystick... :lol:

[C0ntrol]

That would be Heinkel Lerche II that never left prototype stage. According to luft46.com "it was based on an earlier design, the "Wespe" (Wasp). Engineer Reiniger of the Heinkel company in Vienna started the design work on Febuary 25, 1945 and completed the design on March 8, 1945. The "Lerche" (Skylark) employed a ducted wing planform with contrarotating propellors, powered by two Daimler Benz DB605D engines. The pilot lay in a prone position in the extreme nose, and projected armament was two MK 108 30mm cannon."

[Wizearm]

You guys haven't played IL-2 1946? 8O
IL2: 1946 Lerche video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZbRnlzMmK8&feature=related)

[Orrie]

You guys haven't played IL-2 1946? 8O
IL2: 1946 Lerche video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZbRnlzMmK8&feature=related)

Thats right :D

Many of the Planes there are both very funny and amazing at the same time. Me and 2 of my friends had dogfights with the Lerche. And that was amusing XD.

[iknowdintoo]

Here's one: http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g211/snipersnoop/collectie/5045722.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

This is a captured ex-French Infanterie Schlepper UE, of which more than 6,000 examples served in the French Army. Many of these were captured by the Germans during the French Campaign and was modified into several different variants like Munitionsschlepper (ammunition carrier), towing vehicles etc.

The particular variant shown in your picture is a conversion made for the police and/or airfield security duty and carried a single MG34 as its main armament.

In 1943 a considerable number of UE vehicles was converted to carry four Wurfrahmen 40 (firing the same kind of rockets as the Wurfrahmen mounted on the Sd.Kfz. 251 (Stuka zu Fuzz)).

It had a maximum speed of 30 Km/h and overall 7 mm thick armor.

~Zeke.

[C0ntrol]

I knew Zeke would nail this one :)

[Albus]

The Luftwaffe rebuilt UE tractors into genuine small tanks used for securing its airfields and bases. By installing machine guns behind shields and in armored balconies, small series of securing vehicles were created.
The French UE tractor is also used by the Luftwaffe for towing aircraft bombs. Large bombs were simply attached to chains and dragged over the ground. Sometimes transport sleds made of wood were also used to move the bombs.

Used for :

• armored car for the protection of airfields
• towing light infantry guns (leIG18) and 3.7cm Paks
• towing 5.0cm, 7.5cm and 7.62cm Paks as well as heavy infantry guns (sIG33)
• transporting position material and seated wounded
• self-propelled mount for installed 3.7cm Pak36 and 2.5cm Pak112/113(f)
• scout car with installed machine gun
• ammunition carrier +/- trailer to arm gun positions
• 28/32cm rocket launcher
• for training, simulating dummy tanks
• artillery observation

The German army captured some 3000 UE tractors (of those many were damaged and were only used to provide spare parts I guess) and had them overhauled in an assembly plant at Paris (Issy-les-Moulineaux) under the direction of the M.A.N. company.

[Trendkill]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2148/578933ei3.jpg

[ngvede]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2148/578933ei3.jpg

That's Sturer Emil... for more details wait for Zeke's reply :realbig:

[Laxe]

nice tank, guess what it was and who used it :P

http://laxe.casno.lv/11111223.jpg

[filon102]

nice tank, guess what it was and who used it :P

http://laxe.casno.lv/11111223.jpg

prob american forces, because of the suspension that is design. shermans used suspension like that :)

[Zeke Wolff]

It isnt a US tank design and has absolutely nothing to do with the M4 Sherman tank family. In fact it is an Axis tank, and to be more specified, a Japanese flame tank.

It carried two Type 97 7.7mm machine guns in addition to the flame-throwing apparatus, which consisted of two flamethrowers (one mounted in the front and the other in the right side of the body). 504 litres of flame-fuel was carried on a particular flame tank that was captured by US forces in nortern Luzon and there is no written record of any flame tanks ever being used against US forces.

The tank design itself dates back to 1939 whilst the flame throwing equipment was designed in 1940-41 which suggest that the original idea behind this particular vehicle was something else than a flame tank but I havent been able to find any information about its original purpose, nor have I been able to find any information in any of my books regarding the correct name for the flame tank. It is just listed as a "Japanese Flame Tank".

~Zeke.

[Instinct]

SS-d and it's meant to be a pioneer tank carriering bridges etc.

[Panzer_Elite]

shroomie its a kattenkrad if u have CoH and its expansion.only on wheels and made of wood but CoH its on Half tracks and made of metal

[Koshiro]

heres a strange one

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc143/matty_148/kubin8.jpg
This is why we think that the Germans had giant fighting robots!

[Koshiro]

http://www.amazing-planet.net/slike/I400/sen_toku.gif

Sry for only giving the link but i did not quite understand how i upload pics here ;)

Anyways, Since this Zeke Wolff knows everything about tanks i will try with something that different.

[Orrie]

http://www.amazing-planet.net/slike/I400/sen_toku.gif

Sry for only giving the link but i did not quite understand how i upload pics here ;)

Anyways, Since this Zeke Wolff knows everything about tanks i will try with something that different.



To add pictures just press the Img button just above the writing field. :D

[iknowdintoo]

You'll never guess this one :D : http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2793/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaafw2.jpg

[Panzer_Elite]

A WWI plane of course,But if forgot the name,it was a better one then the original..or is it the original?

[iknowdintoo]

Nope, from 1935. Hint: Belgium - Latvia - Germany

[SS-Kommando]

Nope, from 1935. Hint: Belgium - Latvia - Germany

Well, I will guess it is a Fokkewolf at least.

/SS-Kommando

[iknowdintoo]

Wrong again :P
S..... & V........ ...

[FFA702]

the SV-5 Training plane???

[iknowdintoo]

Quite right sir! :yes:

[filon102]

A WWI plane of course,But if forgot the name,it was a better one then the original..or is it the original?
lol how can it be ww1 plane? rofl o_O :lol:

[FFA702]

LOL,google is rigth again!i just google :1935 Belgium Latvia Germany sv s v
lol :woah: :booyah:

[Dilust]

Could I contribute? What is this?

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5047/44161220wo4.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5047/44161220wo4.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

[filon102]

a motorcycle? :huh:

:realbig:

[iknowdintoo]

I really can't see it quite right, maybe a Sdkfz. 2 Kettenkraftrad?

[Dilust]

It's a three-wheeled motorcycle of italian manufacture.
RE: means Regio Esercito (tr. Royal Army)

[Koshiro]

http://members.shaw.ca/skybirdart/Images/I400finalcopy.jpg

Ok, Guess what this is! I am refeering to the submarine, Not the plane so using il2 sturmovik will not help you :realbig:

[Mushroomcar]

Aww.. i saw a program at discovery about this a year ago.. forgot the name.. :sad2: But it was able to carry two planes that could be launched from surface of course.. :P I think it joined the most other submarines and ships when they were sunk togheter somewhere..

- Shroom

[Dilust]

Type AM Japanese submarine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_AM_Japanese_submarine

[HrcAk47]

I'd say it's Sen Toku I-400 and the plane is Aichi M6A1 Seiran, getting its floats mounted :)

[pelitys]

Is that a diving aircraft carrier, especially the bridge looks enormous :D No wonder it wasn't very good underwater.

[Koshiro]

Yes its the (Hold on a minute, i need to change keyboard) 伊四〇〇型潜水艦 (lol change keyboard again) or Sen Toku I-400-class as its name is in english.

[Orrie]

Or you just copied from wikipedia? 伊四〇〇型潜水艦
;)


What is this?
http://orriekm.net/gallery/pictures/DONUTS.jpg

[iknowdintoo]

Japanese SS-Ki flametank.

[Orrie]

Fjandin.....

Thought you'll have problems with that....

What about this then?

http://orriekm.net/gallery/pictures/NOPEEKS.jpg

[FFA702]

its a UK tank i guess? :)

[Orrie]

its a UK tank i guess? :)

Nope :realbig:

[filon102]

jap tank :yes:

[Zeke Wolff]

It´s a Russian OT-26 Flame Thrower tank... couldn´t you come up with something more difficult? :P

~Zeke.

[Orrie]

It´s a Russian OT-26 Flame Thrower tank... couldn´t you come up with something more difficult? :P

~Zeke.

Nothing is difficult for you Zeke... :lol:
Post a vehicle yourself if you dare ;)

[iknowdintoo]

Fjandin.....

Thought you'll have problems with that....

What about this then?

http://orriekm.net/gallery/pictures/NOPEEKS.jpg
It's in Men of War beta (the old one) y'know :realbig:
Here's another one:
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9193/panzerdonkeybm1.png (http://imageshack.us)

Haha, no but seriously though here it is:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5258/aaaaanf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Koshiro]

Or you just copied from wikipedia? 伊四〇〇型潜水艦
;)


What is this?
http://orriekm.net/gallery/pictures/DONUTS.jpg
Its a armored mine clearer, it can be fitted With either mgs or flametrowers. Used against minefields and Chinese infantry.

Copied from wikipedia? Oh i see, just because i wrote something in my language i must have been snooping in wikipedia? Thats how you write the submarines name o_O

[Kommandant]

It's in Men of War beta (the old one) y'know :realbig:
Here's another one:
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9193/panzerdonkeybm1.png (http://imageshack.us)

Haha, no but seriously though here it is:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5258/aaaaanf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thats in Company of Heroes, Its a Eselschreck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFY2T-Z ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsFY2T-ZdbY&feature=related)

Not 100% The same, But looks like it :lol:

Here is one "Hard" one for you.

http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Pictures/ad4.png

EDIT: Heh, I did mean the Donkey :P

[Zeke Wolff]

Here is one "Hard" one for you.

http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Pictures/ad4.png

EDIT: Heh, I did mean the Donkey :P

Tough one indeed... took me a full one minute to find it... :P

Its a Polizei-Panzerkampfwagen ADGZ, manufactured in the mid 1930´s by the Austrian firm Austro-Daimler-Puch. When Austria was annexed by Germany, Germany took interest in the ADGZ heavy armored cars and selected 14 of them for German Elite-Police duties in the Danzig area in September 1939.

A totalt of 27 of these cars had been built for the Austrian Army, but the German Elite-Police crews liked them so much that by early 1942 another 25 had been ordered.

A few of these cars ended up in Yugoslavia where they were put to use, by German Elite-troops, in anti-partisan roles.

~Zeke.

[Kommandant]

Here is one "Hard" one for you.

http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Pictures/ad4.png

EDIT: Heh, I did mean the Donkey :P

Tough one indeed... took me a full one minute to find it... :P

Its a Polizei-Panzerkampfwagen ADGZ, manufactured in the mid 1930´s by the Austrian firm Austro-Daimler-Puch. When Austria was annexed by Germany, Germany took interest in the ADGZ heavy armored cars and selected 14 of them for German Elite-Police duties in the Danzig area in September 1939.

A totalt of 27 of these cars had been built for the Austrian Army, but the German Elite-Police crews liked them so much that by early 1942 another 25 had been ordered.

A few of these cars ended up in Yugoslavia where they were put to use, by German Elite-troops, in anti-partisan roles.

~Zeke.

That is Right! i knew yo would nail this one (Again).

Out,
Kommandant

[Xtri]

Okay Zeke. Let's try a modern tank then :P

Which is this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/444kc1.jpg

[C0ntrol]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/444kc1.jpg
Easy one, That's K2 Black Panther MBT. Made in South Korea. :)

[Dilust]

Could I contribute? What is this?

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5047/44161220wo4.th.jpg (http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5047/44161220wo4.jpg)
(click to enlarge)
Ok I've no luck to make my vehicle identified.

It's a Bianchi 500 Supermil, similar to the TriAlce produced by the more know Guzzi manufactury
More photos here:
http://miles.forumcommunity.net/?t=15950977
http://xoomer.alice.it/genovaest/bianchi500/cmge50.htm

[filon102]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1783/sdkfz2511rocket.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdkfz2511rocket.jpg)

We need this one in game also :P

[iknowdintoo]

Sonderkraftfahrzeug 251 Ausführung C with Wurfgerät 40 multiple rocket launcher ''Stuka zu Fuß''
and I agree, this would be better (and more awesome) than panzerwerfer :D

[Kommandant]

Firstly i want to ask you guys:

Have these been made really?

http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Pa ... fgeher.htm (http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/Panzerkampfgeher.htm)

Well, Here is my Challenge:

http://www.fantasyshop.gr/gallery/ge163.jpg

[iknowdintoo]

No, it is complete and utter BS. As for the picture, a Flakpanzer 38 (t)?

[Zeke Wolff]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1783/sdkfz2511rocket.th.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdkfz2511rocket.jpg)

We need this one in game also :P

Perhaps this one can be used instead?

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9366/tt1.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tt1.jpg)

:P

~Zeke.

PS.
It is far away from being playable... but I am working on it...

[[OoO]No.Mam]

what is this? :huh: looks very dangerous.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2559/001z.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Zeke Wolff]

It is a 8.8 cm PaK43/3 Waffenträger prototype vehicle made by Ardelt. A single prototype was built and tested at Hillersleben on the 27th of April 1945. It was based on the Pz.Kpfw. 38(t) Ausf. D.

~Zeke.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

It is a 8.8 cm PaK43/3 Waffenträger prototype
wow. thats right. concratulation.

[filon102]

yey zeke working hard :D

[Albus]

And this ?

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc179/Albus_1/tractor.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

And this ?

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc179/Albus_1/tractor.jpg

Hmmm... what can this be... can it be Hitler´s Personal All Terrain Tracked Portable Toilet Tank with Automatic Wipe His Arse technology, also called HPATTPTT w/AWHA Ausf. A... :confused:

Nah, jokes aside... it is a Art Schl VA 601(b), the Vickers-Armstrong Utility Tractor built under license in Belgium. Two versions was built, with and without rear seats. The version shown in the picture is the rear seater version.

~Zeke.

[Dilust]

Zeke knows all german equipments. Lets try a more exotic one:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6272/27132031.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6272/27132031.jpg)

[pelitys]

Not a vehicle, but could you Zeke tell us more about "R-Waffe" if you know anything more than this (http://greyfalcon.us/Located%20near%20Ohrdruf.htm) page?

The miracle explosive known nowadays as R-Waffe was not based on uranium, although uranium was used in the creation of the plasmoid. The plasmoid worked as a catalyst on a conventional coal-dust/liquid air mixture to vastly expand the explosion.
I'm interested if that is just pure bull****/speculation, and whether it has been replicated?

[Tharapita]

Hey I got one I was wondering about.

I know it's German but. What is it exactly.

http://f.imagehost.org/0162/sdkfz.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

Hey I got one I was wondering about.

I know it's German but. What is it exactly.

It´s a Sd.Kfz. 233, basically a Schwerer Panzersoahwagen Sd.Kfz. 232 (8-Rad) converted to carry a surplus 7.5 cm Kanone 37 instead of the usual 2 cm automatic cannon carried by the Sd.Kfz. 232 (8-Rad).

~Zeke.

[Weedsmoker]

http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/219272-2/DPdO_8_2%23

Don't you agree it can fight with KV-2 for ugliest vehicle award? :P

[Commandersofwar]

I agree :sick: I would hate being in the crew of that monstrosity. The tank silhouette is so high I bet you could see it for milesss :lol: Anyway that is a panzer I tank chassis with a SIG-33 heavy infantry gun mounted on it! :booyah:

[Zeke Wolff]

I agree :sick: I would hate being in the crew of that monstrosity. The tank silhouette is so high I bet you could see it for milesss :lol: Anyway that is a panzer I tank chassis with a SIG-33 heavy infantry gun mounted on it! :booyah:

Actually you would be more safe inside one of these than in a Tiger I tank, since these are rear line firing vehicles and wasn´t designed to get close to the enemy positions. A Tiger I would have to face the enemy at point blank range and thus, would have "better" chances of getting knocked out.

~Zeke.

[Commandersofwar]

Egad! Your right why did I think of it! :lol: No I'd most hate being the crew of a M4 Sherman :( Those tanks caught fire easily and were outmatched by almost every tank the Germans had. However the one advantage of the Sherman is this
Total Production Numbers for all M4 Sherman Versions: 49,243
Total Production numbers for the Panzers I, II, III, IV, the Panther, Tiger I, and the Tiger 2: 27,391 'nuff said :realbig:

[Weedsmoker]

Yep you were correct :) But despite being in back lines, I'd still not want to sit in this thing lol.

[Commandersofwar]

Hahaha one molotov cocktail to that open turret would finish that thing :baseball:

[vex]

A couple nitpicky overanalyzing realism things I noticed in MOW.

The Elephant in MOW is technically a Ferdinand. Though they are basically the same thing, the Ferdinand did not have an MG and after it's terrible performance at Kursk they were refitted with MG's, etc. and renamed the Elephant before it then saw service in Italy, etc.

The "sorry miss" Jackson did have a armoured steel split cover that hindged down to protect the turret crew from schrapnel, small arms fire, etc.

The Turtle that everyone says did not see combat.... Well Military/History channel has aired film of it prior to the fall of Berlin showing russian recon troops and british soldiers standing in front of it in their quick meeting. So being that it was technically in the front line territory and the war was still going on, you can play with your own chicken/egg symantics and decide if it was in the war/combat. (I've never seen it referred to being in battle or destroying anything of significance. ie. there is also footage of a Pershing stalking a Panther in a German city and tearing knocking it out setting it on blaze where it burned for 3 days)

People always are arguing about the superiority of the german 88s and how much better they are then the american/british guns. Well true until later in the war. The US and Brits had plenty of SABOT type rounds by the end of the war that are pretty similar to what most armies still use today. The Israeli used Centurian's and Modded Shermans using these same rounds and had no problem wiping out Russian Built T-55s et al at something rediculous like 50/1 from distance. Despite all the glorifying and mystique of the Russian & German Heavies, I would have rather been in a Centurian or Pershing with far superior reliability, manueverability, gun ranging/sighting technology and very advanced rounds then a german or russian equivalent.

This is just my two sense, I already am aware that most probably don't agree.

[Commandersofwar]

Well the Centurion in itself was a good tank and was used for quite a while even up to 1990 in various engineer tasks kinda says something about how good it was :P

[Ludovsky]

People always are arguing about the superiority of the german 88s and how much better they are then the american/british guns.

Technically, before even the "later part of the war", the -Italian- Canone da 90/53 had already proved itself to be a better AT/AA gun than the Flak 88, both outranging it and firing even heavier shells at an even higher velocity. -That- gun could generally be considered the best of its category throughout the war.

It's only "weakness" wasn't even real the design's fault, rather than the -poor- industrial capabilities of Italy hindering production of the gun even though it was even simpler to produces than the 88 ontop of being more efficient.

Heck, again if in poor quantities because of their lacking industry, the Italians had managed to produce an equivalent of the german Nashorn tank-hunter 2 years before the Nashorn even was to be.

[Zeke Wolff]

The Turtle that everyone says did not see combat.... Well Military/History channel has aired film of it prior to the fall of Berlin showing russian recon troops and british soldiers standing in front of it in their quick meeting. So being that it was technically in the front line territory and the war was still going on, you can play with your own chicken/egg symantics and decide if it was in the war/combat. (I've never seen it referred to being in battle or destroying anything of significance.

The A39 Turtoise DID not see combat during WW2. The first prototypes wasnt even completed until 1947 when 6 was delivered to the UK Army for testing but wasnt accepted due to an outdated design and being to clumsy etc. This is well documented in a lot of books written by trustworthy authors who knows what they are talking about, not some Military/History Channel producers... quite often you can see these M/HC shows talking about Tigers and on screen, what do you see? A Panther etc. It wouldnt surprise me at all if the "Turtoise" shown in the show you are mentioning, is in fact a Russian SU-152... (or a T34 for that matter).


ie. there is also footage of a Pershing stalking a Panther in a German city and tearing knocking it out setting it on blaze where it burned for 3 days)

And? The Pershing did see action in WW2, no one has ever said anything else, but only a handful did arrive in Europe before the end of the war.

~Zeke.

[Commandersofwar]

They even used a few Pershings on Okinawa :yes:

[vex]

Zeke I'm glad to meet the omniscent god of WW2 knowledge. As many things in history are not always perfectly clear and often the developements and testings where kept hidden and to this day it's hard to know the exact facts.... I'm glad you know all and can tell us, the museums and historians the truth.

The film on Military/History channel yes may not match exactly the story (thought pretty dam convincing) as there are often mistakes in these documentaries.
The tank in the film is clearly a tortoise not an isu152 and I won't even respond to your other suggestion.
The Bovington Tank Museum has one, I know what it looks like.
By February 1944 design A.T.16 was complete and met with approval from the Tank Board who at their meeting on the 23rd February 1944 proposed that 25 be produced direct from the mock up stage without waiting for trials of a pilot model."Once the War had ended the order was reduced and ultimately only 6 vehicles were ever built. Tortoise was sent to Germany for automotive and gunnery trials where it was found to be reliable and a hard hitting and accurate gun platform, however at 80 tons it proved to be difficult to transport and at a height of 10 feet was considered too tall. On completion of the trials the Tortoise was discarded."
British and American Tanks of World War II Chamberlain & Ellis Arms & Armour Press
British Tanks & Fighting Vehicles 1914-1945 B.T. While Ian Allan
Now, I wasn't in Germany in May 1945 so I don't know if it made it there on time. I personally don't think the tank should even be in the game but don't really care. I think it is possible that a prototype may have made it there but don't know and don't care that much about it other then it was worth pointing out.

On a more interesting note: Blub0r2K posted up a playable GS mod for MOW with several year and other options. Good stuff and alot of fun to play. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SWNEIWZQ or http://uploaded.to/file/938lb4 Good Job Blub0r

[Commandersofwar]

I didn't even know the Turtle existed until i played Faces of War :realbig:

[Zeke Wolff]

By February 1944 design A.T.16 was complete and met with approval from the Tank Board who at their meeting on the 23rd February 1944 proposed that 25 be produced direct from the mock up stage without waiting for trials of a pilot model."Once the War had ended the order was reduced and ultimately only 6 vehicles were ever built. Tortoise was sent to Germany for automotive and gunnery trials where it was found to be reliable and a hard hitting and accurate gun platform, however at 80 tons it proved to be difficult to transport and at a height of 10 feet was considered too tall. On completion of the trials the Tortoise was discarded."
British and American Tanks of World War II Chamberlain & Ellis Arms & Armour Press
British Tanks & Fighting Vehicles 1914-1945 B.T. While Ian Allan
Now, I wasn't in Germany in May 1945 so I don't know if it made it there on time. I personally don't think the tank should even be in the game but don't really care. I think it is possible that a prototype may have made it there but don't know and don't care that much about it other then it was worth pointing out.

INo, I do pretend to be the "God of WW2 history" but I know how to read a book... If you open up your copy of the "British and American Tanks of World War II" again and continues to read, you will see the following:

However, the six pilot models were not delivered for trials until 1946-47, by which time interest in these vehicles had ceased and no further work was done on them.

Following the end of the war the order was reduced and only 6 vehicles were built. One example was sent to Germany for trials where it was found to be mechanically reliable and a powerful and accurate gun platform, however at a weight of 80 tons and a height of 10 feet (3.0 m) it proved difficult to transport.

One A39 Turtoise was indeed sent to Germany for trials but if you read your own message again and also read my quoting above, you will see that you have misread your own book. If you read it correctly you will see that the sentence reads "One example was sent to Germany AFTER the end of the war".

If you still don´t believe me, then I strongly advices you to surf to www.missing-lynx.com (http://www.missing-lynx.com) and go to the Allied Subforum and ask those guys whether the A39 Turtoise saw use in WW2 or not. That site is frequently visited by some of the better known WW2 historians like Stephen J Zaloga, Tom L Jentz, Hillary L Doyle, David Doyle, David Fletcher etc. If you don´t believe me, who has a vast library of books regarding WW2 and studied WW2 for more than 20 years, perhaps you´ll believe them? The only difference is that I havent written any books myself.

~Zeke.

[vex]

Don't know, don't care. What I saw is what I saw and it looked pretty historically accurate to pre-end of war along with the documentary. I also saw that it was named/approved in 43/44 in secret (we know now because of a few docs now available) and that it would have been possible that it could have made it before end of war as the brits made countless other prototypes, funny tanks,etc in extremely short times (months even) and often some where sent out immediately. The official line vs reality is often different as you noted on History/Military Channel as well as lots and lots of "official" US/Allied/Axis/etc. footage and propaganda.

Those references where attached to that blurb, listed on a WW2 war site showing the Tank as a 44 Model, the photo also is on another site showing the tank as a 1946 model, and another site stating..... I think you might get the picture.

I'm more responding to your arrogance more then anything else. If it promotes discussion and/or If it riles ya up (read/interpret this with a sense of humour please)... more betta.

I offer up questionable, even devils advocate thought to promote argumentative discussion which is often the quickest way to learning.... abit different then just correcting someone because it makes you feel superior... albeit look, a bit.... small. like a pea... or maybe even a tiny little pebble... which i guess would just be a piece of sand.... unless it was not silica based... and then it could be....

[varlo]

we don't post on this this site to "rile" people up.

[stealth_756]

I know this isn't about ww2 vehicles but, back in world war 2 did a field medic by any chance have a rank?

[Kohlrabi]

Depends on which nation, but yes, medics had different ranks.

[stealth_756]

US, and by what I mean is, where did they stand in rank?

[Landkreuzer ratte]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/632/ratte7ga3.jpg Try that! :beer:

[Kohlrabi]

Try that!
"Landkreuzer ratte" ?

[yurypereira]

That was only a project.

[yurypereira]

How about this?

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9852/105vickers6wq.jpg

[Rafo]

A captured Vickers 105mm 6wq ^^

[Land_Raider]

http://i44.tinypic.com/14b0tqw.jpg

I don't think anyone will get this.

Besides Zeke of course.

[filon102]

ooo thats easy its a 88mm Kamfwagen 2/4 KwG-G34 with a crew of 6 :yes:

http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.JPG

[★priv.alex(lv)☭]

ooo thats easy its a 88mm Kamfwagen 2/4 KwG-G34 with a crew of 6 :yes:

http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dr-evil.JPG
ooo thats a Dr. Bald

[yurypereira]

How about this bizarre machine?

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/2391/flak7jv.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

It´s a Minenräumpanzer III, a prototype development of a mine-destroyer vehicle. A turretless hull from a Pz.Kpfw. III was fitted with an extended and raised suspension system. It was designed to have a boom, extented to the front, which would carry the mine-destroying equipment.

Basically it is the Pz3 mine vehicle that is included in the game, w/o the mine destroying equipment added. Only one or two prototypes were made and none of them saw any action.

~Zeke.

[neo2906]

http://www.panzerlexikon.de/raketenwerfer4.jpg

thats a nice tank XD

or this tank

http://www.panzerlexikon.de/lowe.jpg

[Dennis07]

What's this tank?
Thats not fair!!! It is very difficult!!!!!!!!!
Well, maybe osmeone knows this one:
http://www.combatreform2.com/fscv_004.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

http://www.panzerlexikon.de/raketenwerfer4.jpg

thats a nice tank XD

or this tank

http://www.panzerlexikon.de/lowe.jpg

Last thing first... Its a Pz.Kpfw. VII "Löwe", a prototype superheavy tank that never saw daylight in any other form than on a piece of design paper and perhaps as a wooden example.

The other tank is a Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. C with a modified turret, which was designed to fire rockets. This one was also only made as a prototype and was never delivered to the troops for field testing.

~Zeke.

[Blub0r2k]

What's this tank?
Thats not fair!!! It is very difficult!!!!!!!!!
Well, maybe osmeone knows this one:


fantasy tank & not build during ww2.

its a m113 APC

i drove such a tank during my military service ;)

[yurypereira]

Try this german heavy tank.

http://www.zorich.ru/articles/day9/Pz_nor.jpg

[Rafo]

its an NBKFZ or something, letter order may be wrong lol...

[Dennis07]

wow, not bad!
You are very good!

[yurypereira]

Try this german heavy tank.

http://www.zorich.ru/articles/day9/Pz_nor.jpg

It´s Pz. Kpfw V - experimental

The German Neubaufahrzeug series of tank prototypes were a first attempt to create a heavy tank for the Wehrmacht after Adolf Hitler had come to power. Multi-turreted, heavy and slow, they did not fit in with the Blitzkrieg tactics and there were only five made. These were primarily used for propaganda purposes, though three took part in the invasion of Norway in 1940.

Development of the Neubaufahrzeug (German for "new construction vehicle") started in 1933 when the then Reichswehr gave a contract for the development of a 'Großtraktor' (heavy tractor) to both Rheinmetall-Borsig and Krupp. 'Grosstractor' was a codename for the development of a heavy tank, Germany being still forbidden to develop tanks under the terms of the Treaty of Versailles.

The two designs resembled each other to a great extent, the main difference being the weapons placement. Each had a main turret armed with a 75 mm KwK L/24 main gun and secondary 37 mm Tankkanone L/45, with Rheinmetall's design mounting the second gun above the 75 mm KwK L/24, while the Krupp design had it mounted next to the 75 mm KwK L/24. Both designs had two secondary turrets mounted to the front and the rear of the main turret. These secondary turrets were slightly adapted Panzer I turrets, with the standard machinegun armament.

Rheinmetall's design was designated the PzKpfw NbFz V ('PanzerKampfwagen NeubauFahrzeug V'), and the Krupp design the PzKpfw NbFz VI. It was intended that these designs would fulfill the role of heavy tank in the armored forces, but the design proved to be too complex and unreliable for this role. Development nevertheless continued in order for the nascent German military to gain experience with multi-turreted tanks.

In 1934 Rheinmetall built two mild steel prototypes, the first armed with an in-house turret design, and the second with a Krupp turret. Three more prototypes were built with proper armor and the Krupp turret in 1935 and 1936.

Though these tanks were never placed in production, they provided a propaganda tool for Nazi Germany, for example being shown at the International Automobile Exposition in Berlin in 1939.

[Dennis07]

wow, not bad!

Now: look at this one:::

http://www.west-front.net/images/ford1.jpg

or this nice one :lol: :

http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/bilder/7/3/4/3734-3074643.jpg

[Commandersofwar]

Wow the bottom is a captured Russian T-34 and the top is a Japanese Nissan 180 Truck

[Dennis07]

Not bad, one was correct....

[filon102]

Wow the bottom is a captured Russian T-34 and the top is a Japanese Nissan 180 Truck

i thought that truck was a honda civic.... hmm.... no skylines back in that day? :)

[Commandersofwar]

i thought that truck was a honda civic.... hmm.... no skylines back in that day?
Nope! And i missed the truck one didn't i :wilting:

[yurypereira]

Who knows about this one?

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2568/bergeelefanthv4.jpg

[filon102]

looks like the elephant tank but without the gun itself :toast:

[Rafo]

bergelefant

xD

[yurypereira]

bergelefant

xD

It´s not the correct name, but Bergetiger Porsche.

A total of three Bergepanzer Tiger(P) were constructed in September 1943 by Nibelungwerke. The basic chassis and suspension of the Tiger(P) was unchanged, but the engines ( petrol-electric) were mounted in the center and a superstructure was added to the rear (similar to the Ferdinand/Elefant). The only armament was one 7.92mm MG34 mounted in the rear superstructure. No special recovery equipment was added aside from a small derrick crane, rams, and timber beams.

[FFA702]

Heh?wy german make a tank like that????

[filon102]

Heh?wy german make a tank like that????

bored i guess :huh:

[FFA702]

bored i guess

Lol,i mean,wy use an Tiger chassis to make that MG tank?Now i know wy the german loost the war... :wilting:

[Zeke Wolff]

bored i guess

Lol,i mean,wy use an Tiger chassis to make that MG tank?Now i know wy the german loost the war... :wilting:

They made it because no other recovery tank that they had, was able to tow the Elefants/Ferdinands. No material was wasted since these three recovery tanks had already been made before the decision to convert them to recovery vehicles. They were originally designed as a competing version to the Henschell Tiger I but the latter one won the contract.

~Zeke.

[FFA702]

Oh,i see. :)

[Dennis07]

~ deleted ~
(by me)

[yurypereira]

Who knows about this??

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x113/yurypereira/MOW/25z0c2c.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

It´s a Magirus ARW (Achtradwagen), a prototype for a wheeled reconaissance vehicle. It had special cast aluminium alloy wheels to keep the weight down. Unfortunately, it was cancelled due to being too expensive and in January 1931, a decision was made to defer development of multiwheeled vehicles to the distant future.

~Zeke.

[yurypereira]

Wow, you are a specialist.

[filon102]

well if Zeke has a library full of vehicles, then what do u think he does all day?

work on models, read, work, read, eat, work, eat, sleep for 1 hour, then work :realbig:

[yurypereira]

I think this is a little more difficult.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x113/yurypereira/MOW/dibujoef0.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

Nah, just a little bit more difficult... but not much... :P

It´s a "M.K.A.", a design made by Krupp, which was originally planned to be an export tank. But in the end it ended up to be a prototype for the "ZW", another prototype as well, and the Z.W. prototype later evolved into the tank that today is known as "Pz.Kpfw. IV". Many of the design ideas for the M.K.A. also saw use in the Pz.Kpfw. IV, the body for example, is strikingly similar to the early Pz.Kpfw. IV hulls.

~Zeke.

[FFA702]

Tis one??

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9256/38341868.th.jpg

EDIT:fix Image

[Zeke Wolff]

Tis one??

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9256/38341868.th.jpg

EDIT:fix Image

It´s a New Zealand designed tank, based on the International Agricultural tractor. Basically it was the tractor fitted with a box-like superstructrue which had loopholes for rifle fire from within. It was also armed with three or four machine guns. The gunner who fired the front machine gun, had to lay, face-down, on top of the engine to be able to fire his gun.

Only four was ever built and it was named "Bob Semple" after the New Zealand Defence Minister who had dreamed up the tank. The tactical value was very limited and the design was unstable. All four examples was built between 1940-41. Weight 20-25tons and it had a maximum speed of only 8MPH.

~Zeke.

[FFA702]

Lets try someting else...

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1959/95256030.th.jpg

[Zeke Wolff]

Lets try someting else...

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1959/95256030.th.jpg

Mine Exploder T10.

A failed prototype. The designed proved to be unwieldy and was cancelled in September 1944.

~Zeke.

[FFA702]

I am shure you dont know tis one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/908/95217435.th.png









:lol: jk.

[Zeke Wolff]

I am shure you dont know tis one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/908/95217435.th.png

:lol: jk.

It´s a top secret German WW2 prototype design for a Sd.kfz. 505/2 "Walking Tank". It was supposed to be armed with five 128mm KwK 44 main guns, four batteries of 20mm FlaK guns and 20-30 MG42s. Crew was proposed to be 120 and the maximum walking speed 12MPH.

As a final insult to the enemy, the German designers had added a bronze plated sign under each one of the four massive "paws", with the text (both in Russian and English) "You´re DOOMED!" written in 50 cm big letters... :insane:

~Zeke.

[Zebah (szebus)]

I am shure you dont know tis one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/908/95217435.th.png

To me it seemse like the Imperial AT-AT Walker from Star Wars http://www.slightlydesigned.co.uk/pictures/atat2.jpg

[Dennis07]

nice, but as the name sais already:
Identify wehicles from WW2:
Star Wars acts in a long, long time before in a far, far galaxy....
... and not in europe / pazific in the yoear 1939-45

But that was a nice idea!!! :lol:

[FFA702]

lol,thanks.

[Dennis07]

I am shure you dont know tis one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/908/95217435.th.png

:lol: jk.

It´s a top secret German WW2 prototype design for a Sd.kfz. 505/2 "Walking Tank". It was supposed to be armed with five 128mm KwK 44 main guns, four batteries of 20mm FlaK guns and 20-30 MG42s. Crew was proposed to be 120 and the maximum walking speed 12MPH.

As a final insult to the enemy, the German designers had added a bronze plated sign under each one of the four massive "paws", with the text (both in Russian and English) "You´re DOOMED!" written in 50 cm big letters... :insane:

~Zeke.


Did you really mean that in hornest???? :realbig: :lol: :)

[yurypereira]

Who knows the name of this dinosaur?

http://strangevehicles.greyfalcon.us/picturesm/au1.jpg

[Dennis07]

Do you think I am spamming in this thread???

[FFA702]

Do you think I am spamming in this thread???

no,wy?

[CptBanana]

I am shure you dont know tis one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/908/95217435.th.png

:lol: jk.

It´s a top secret German WW2 prototype design for a Sd.kfz. 505/2 "Walking Tank". It was supposed to be armed with five 128mm KwK 44 main guns, four batteries of 20mm FlaK guns and 20-30 MG42s. Crew was proposed to be 120 and the maximum walking speed 12MPH.

As a final insult to the enemy, the German designers had added a bronze plated sign under each one of the four massive "paws", with the text (both in Russian and English) "You´re DOOMED!" written in 50 cm big letters... :insane:

~Zeke.

:realbig: too funny...I love it.

[Commandersofwar]

I am shure you dont know tis one:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/908/95217435.th.png

:lol: jk.

It´s a top secret German WW2 prototype design for a Sd.kfz. 505/2 "Walking Tank". It was supposed to be armed with five 128mm KwK 44 main guns, four batteries of 20mm FlaK guns and 20-30 MG42s. Crew was proposed to be 120 and the maximum walking speed 12MPH.

As a final insult to the enemy, the German designers had added a bronze plated sign under each one of the four massive "paws", with the text (both in Russian and English) "You´re DOOMED!" written in 50 cm big letters... :insane:

~Zeke.

:realbig: too funny...I love it.
How come the germans didn't use this at Stalingrad? :lol: This is hilarious!!!! :lol: