[FoW] PaPP minimod

[Cromtec]

Name of the Mod: Prototypes and Paper Projects
Authors:Cromtec
Start Date: August
Single player: Y
Multiplayer: N
New maps: Y, three
Latest version: 0.1
Links:
http://www.polymill.eu/
http://rapidshare.com/files/65591187/PaPP.rar.html
Filesize: About 40mb

General Description:
Like the title says: It features early and late war and never finished or rare German, Russian and American vehicles or vehicles in prototype state.
USA->T28/T95
USSR->IS3
Germany->E100 (Tiger-Maus), Pz7 (Maus), NbFZ, Kugelblitz (FlakPzIV), Pak41-43/L71

Structure: Ludendorff railway bridge
Entourage: German radio rack
Maps/Missions:
USA->Remagen (big map, custom size, many triggers after task 4. Can be laggy) ------> T28 vs. E100
USSR->Berlin ------>IS3 vs. Maus and E100
German->Berlin-Kummersdorf ------>IS3 vs. Maus

===Installation===
Unpack it and copy it into your mod folder. Start the game, register the mod.

===Known bugs/issues===
The T28/95 tank can sometimes be knocked out with a single hit on the right sidie near the hatch bulge.
The final wave in the remagen mission are sometimes not rendered. You see the FX but no model.

[Cromtec]

There is a wrong localization file for the russian mission.
Get the patch at
http://www.polymill.eu

[HrcAk47]

Crom, beautiful, as usual. Just some things. I played German mission. And i have following remarks:

First, some ground texture is missing at one place (I get checkerboard look)
Second, all tanks are underpowered. A point blanc shot from my King tiger bounced of from the back of BT7!
Third, some soldiers show that "blueskin".
fourth, german mission has sooo many tanks! 8O

But, i must confess, models are beautiful, the ideas for the maps are splendid, and playing it is phun. :realbig:

[Cromtec]

Crom, beautiful, as usual. Just some things. I played German mission. And i have following remarks:

First, some ground texture is missing at one place (I get checkerboard look)
Second, all tanks are underpowered. A point blanc shot from my King tiger bounced of from the back of BT7!
Third, some soldiers show that "blueskin".
fourth, german mission has sooo many tanks! 8O

But, i must confess, models are beautiful, the ideas for the maps are splendid, and playing it is phun. :realbig:
Thanks for your reply.
On which map do you see the missing texture?
I didn't change any penetration values or anything gun related. I've just added models to the FOW standard. Sorry. i agree, I had a hard time to kill a T34 with a jagdtiger.
I love tank battles :) If there are too many tanks, open the editor and either turn off some triggers or delete some of them. Use your mine layers wisely and place the Maus wisely. That's the key

[HrcAk47]

I saw the missing texture in German Maus mission, also some blueskin soldiers.

May I recomend adding one Kugelblitz to that mission? Perhaps to defend from those airstrikes - if not, then to keep those t34's at bay :baseball:

If you have time, i recomend to make weapon mods. It really is not fun to see a t34 humiliating Jagdtiger :( .

Oh, and you should delete the grass in trenches and bunkers. It would look better without.

One more thing. Add more Soviet infantry, and make them charge. It would add a bit more difficulty to game.

Cheers!

[Rafo]

Very good mod just downloaded it and its cool but wheres the radio thing on the allied mission where u go stealth and have to go to island... i always fail it

here is the missing texture i german mission



http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/thumb/cc22bf7a2468ad29a12cde768730a2302a2857b0.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/bf2player2006/ss_file-cc22bf7a2468ad29a12cde768730a2302a2857b0.jpg)

[Cromtec]

I saw the missing texture in German Maus mission, also some blueskin soldiers.

May I recomend adding one Kugelblitz to that mission? Perhaps to defend from those airstrikes - if not, then to keep those t34's at bay :baseball:

If you have time, i recomend to make weapon mods. It really is not fun to see a t34 humiliating Jagdtiger :( .

Oh, and you should delete the grass in trenches and bunkers. It would look better without.

One more thing. Add more Soviet infantry, and make them charge. It would add a bit more difficulty to game.

Cheers!
Open it in the editor and change it to whatever you like.

[Cromtec]

Very good mod just downloaded it and its cool but wheres the radio thing on the allied mission where u go stealth and have to go to island... i always fail it

here is the missing texture i german mission



http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/thumb/cc22bf7a2468ad29a12cde768730a2302a2857b0.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/bf2player2006/ss_file-cc22bf7a2468ad29a12cde768730a2302a2857b0.jpg)

Go to the right, take care of the patrol in the armored car. Don't get too close on the warehouse. Turn left. Kill the three soldiers guarding the boats. Go near the island. Then you have completed one task. After that your pointed to the village. There is an antenna and pz2 destroy it and you don't have to go stealthy anymore.
Be quick. After the transmitter has been destroyed, the train will start moving. The sarge gives you hints.

Sorry about the texture, I've used FOW standard textures. Open the map in the editor and paint over it.

[Cromtec]

I've replaced the blue soldiers and the missing texture.
get the map patch at
http://www.polymill.eu/

[Cromtec]

If you have a hard time with the remagen mission, here is my strategy:
http://www.polymill.eu/images/Rem_Strat.jpg

[Jason1]

Nice job Cromtec!

[Cromtec]

Thanks.

[Steiner]

Nice!Very good Work!
Wishes Steiner! :woah:

[stealth_756]

Dear Cromtec,

Is ther a way that i may beable to add this to a mix mod of my own but can i me able to just copy and paste or is there another way?

Stealth

[Cromtec]

You can use it if you want to. I said that in the readme file. I'm not sure what you want to copy and paste. entities or the script? If you paste the entities you'll lose the tags and the script will not work anymore. So, check the tags first (strg T) and add them again after pasting

[C0ntrol]

Any chance you could try to make this mod compatible with Outfront 2? There already is many uncommon vehicles in the game and the T28 and Is-3 would make great addition to Allied and Soviet teams so they had something to counter 88's :)

[HrcAk47]

Well, IS3 isnt much stronger in gun values from IS2, but significantly better armored, plus having a very structurally strong sloped armor. I am certain it could take enough beating and still get to a good range to counter KT and Elephant.

T28 is a story for itself, i think that tank can take an oomphing amount of 88s and still pluck out Jagdpanthers from afar.

In my opinion, it would be very cool to have all of your vehicles in OF2 :realbig:

As for people who think they are unreal, one word - Turtle. Significantly inferior design to T28, also a Paper Panzer, and it even wasnt used in WW2. I'd swapped it anytime for T28 :)

So please make your mod playable in OF2 :realbig:

[Cromtec]

So please make your mod playable in OF2 :realbig:
Sure but it depends how big the changes are.

[HrcAk47]

If the most of the models are directly ported from FoW, i hardly see any difference, it would only need improved gun settings and armor data. In my opinion, that is :realbig:

[C0ntrol]

Judging from the files I looked at last night in the x.pat files it should be easy to convert your PaPP tanks into Outfront. Hofepully we'll see them soon ;)

[HrcAk47]

Crom, may Control and I try to place them in OF2? Just for testing purposes :)

[Cromtec]

sure, go ahead. Let's see whether it works.

[Cromtec]

Minor update: For those who care; The auto turn ability for the T28 is working now. get the mdl file at
http://www.polymill.eu/downloads.htm
replace this file with the one in ..game\mod\resource\entity\tank_heavy\t28
folder.

[Tommy2guns]

Thanks Crom!

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

i think that you should make this mod for multiplayer to having these great tanks and weapons for multiplayer would be awsome.

[Orrie]

This mod I can just assure that is on my "Watch List" :D
Finally I/we can roam around in a Maus! (and a E100)!!!

:typing:

[Eger]

New texture for model Cromtec
Stug3B
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2971/stug3bvz6.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stug3bvz6.jpg)

[Cromtec]

Looks good :).
But I will not do any updates or addition to this mod. I have just found out that somebody has stolen my work. He has also taken images from my website. Well at least he was kind enough to link to it.
I guess he was too lazy to hijack the site.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/10366/prototy ... r-projects (http://www.moddb.com/mods/10366/prototypes-and-paper-projects)
Does somebody know freredarme?

[ngvede]

You will not do any updates or additions because you don't feel like it or because someone stole your work?
The first reason I can understand but second one.... no, not really.

Don't get me wrong, I don't support any kind of stealing but these things happen and will keep happening. It should irritate you but not put you off your work.
You are one of the most advanced modders in this community and loosing your input would be quite bad, if you ask me. I hope you get over it and keep participating :realbig:

[Jason1]

I second ngvede. I hope you won't let this stop you Cromtec. We all know what you have done and we'll back you up if need be. Anyway, if you find it too difficult to ignore, let Instinct know and see if he can help. Please don't give up...

[Cromtec]

Well I will go on or participate in other FOW mods of course but thanks for warm feedback. Much appreciated.
If you think this paper project concept should be continued or updated what input would you like to see?

[ngvede]

I'd love to see a "Comet" :realbig:
...or some French or Italian tanks and vehicles... :hurray:

[Cromtec]

x[F-Fullmetal]i think that you should make this mod for multiplayer to having these great tanks and weapons for multiplayer would be awsome.
I will when Outfront 2 is out. I tried to to it in a patch for FOW but they don't show up in MP sessions.

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

oh ok.

[Orrie]

Then we know when to expect an update release :D

[Orrie]

I just recently tried to make the PaPP vehicles work in multiplayer. Since I only made this to play with a friend, I wont upload/give out the files/text, so you have to do it yourself.
But I can (I hope I don't get slaughtered for this) post a picture, just to prove it :P
I've only added the Maus and E100
And once again, Thanks to Cromtec for making this mod!

http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/OrriexD/th_071228-1339-01.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/OrriexD/071228-1339-01.jpg)
http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/OrriexD/th_071228-1339-00.jpg (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/OrriexD/071228-1339-00.jpg)

[C0ntrol]

And in case that DMS wouldn't have quitted the Beta, they would've also been in the next release of Battle of the Beasts mod... But well, that's life and we all gotta live with it :|

[Cromtec]

Great work Orrie :)

[HrcAk47]

And in case that DMS wouldn't have quitted the Beta, they would've also been in the next release of Battle of the Beasts mod... But well, that's life and we all gotta live with it :|

Yap... http://i18.tinypic.com/6sjwqwj.jpg


Edit: Oh, and Orrie - Make those tanks use only 4 crew members - there is no room for 5 :)

[Orrie]

And in case that DMS wouldn't have quitted the Beta, they would've also been in the next release of Battle of the Beasts mod... But well, that's life and we all gotta live with it :|

Yap... http://i18.tinypic.com/6sjwqwj.jpg


Edit: Oh, and Orrie - Make those tanks use only 4 crew members - there is no room for 5 :)

Yeah, I have changed that :P
btw, I got all of the Vehicles useable.
(Maus, E100, T-28, IS-3, Kügelblitz, nbfz and Pak 43)
I had a problem with the T-28, but I got that fixed!

If you want, I can give you the files Cromtec :P

[Cromtec]

Thanks for the offer, that's nice.

[Orrie]

So you want them?

Couldn't really tell.
I can send them over e-mail, I can send link over PM, so you can work it out

[Cromtec]

Thanks :) also for making my models accessible for MP players.
Please send it to Cromtec@polymill.eu

[Cromtec]

For those who are interested in more prototype, unfinished or experimental tanks,
here's a list of them I can model because I have nice scale drawings (Doyle, Lentz, Bradford).
I can do others too but the level of detail depends on the quality of the drawings or photos provided.
So, please tell me what you would like to see.


German--->Recon:
Based on PzII chassis:
1. Panzerspaehwagen II Ausf. M
2. Luchs 5cm
3. Gefechtsaufklärer Leopard
3a. APC "Kätzchen"

4. Porsche Typ 245-010 (5,5 cm auto cannon)

Based on the 38t chassis:
5. Aufklärer 38D (2cm and 7,5 cm AKF L/48)

Based roughly on PzII chassis:
6. Versuchsflakwagen-Leichte (2cm, 3,7 or 5cm)

7. Gep.Sfl. Flak 41 (8.8 cm)

Based on PzIV chassis:
8. Flakpanzer 341 (2cm and 3.7cm AAA mounted on a panther chassis)
9. Flakpanzer 341 (twin 3.7cm AAA mounted coaxial. This version is sometimes referred to as the "Coelian")
10. Same version as 9. but with 5.5 cm guns.

German--->small/Medium/heavy
11.E10/E25/E50/E75
12. Tiger Ausf. P2 (Porsche design, turret on the rear)
13. "Löwe" (Lion: a 70 ton tank with a 10.5cm gun)
14. Maus II (different turret)
15. Bear (30.5cm SPA, basically a big mortar)
16. small tank with 10.5 cm (similar to the Hetzer design)
17. Rutscher ("slider") (armed with 1 or 2 PAWs [recoiless rifles] and 1 LMG). There are a number of variants built primarily to defeat
the American Hellcat.

Rusian--->Medium/heavy
18. T35(A)
19. SU-14 or SU-14-1 (SPA)
20. T44
21. SU-101 tank destroyer
22. IS 7

There are a number of experimental SAMs like the "Rheintochter", Enzian, Wasserfall, wire guided bombs (Fritz-X) and AA-missiles but these are useless for the game.

[HrcAk47]

Wow Crom... All of them sound soo good!

I believe Allies will have a hard time with all of those nice models around!
To be honest, i havent heard about quite a number of them... so could you pm me their pics?

Ok, here is my list of vehicles i think to be most fun...

-Coelian (you can use the existing Panther Chassis and make modifications on it) in both flavours - 3,7 and 5,5 cm
-Lowe
-Rutscher (sounds fun, but i dont have a clue about how it looks)
-Porsche Typ 245-010 (i also dont know how it looks)
-E-series.

For Russians:

IS7 (well, they do need something against Lowe, Maus and E100)
T44, and perhaps, since we now do alternate history, T54/55. I think it is only the different turret.

Su14 could go after the OF2 is released... against Karl, perhaps...

I think Allies also deserve something to them... Perhaps Pattons? :)

[Matty148]

maybe a centurion for the allies

[Cromtec]

Thanks for your collection.
You are right the allies need something too but I have to collect drawings about their experimental stuff first.
Anyway I can't do all of these vehicles alone. Unfortunately I can't work on them 8-12 hours a day :)
Maybe someone wants do some of them or only the textures. If I do this alone, it will take months to finish.
I can't publish pictures it's copyright stuff and I have number of different sources. That would take some time to scan all this stuff.
I'll look for centurion reference material.

[FiffA]

Well i found a picture on the web of the Tiger II Ausf.P2 Porsche type 180

http://www.phpshopxml.com/client/quakit/tmb/gas48604m-H-200-W-500-S-30853.jpg

[C0ntrol]

Well i found a picture on the web of the Tiger II Ausf.P2 Porsche type 180

http://www.phpshopxml.com/client/quakit/tmb/gas48604m-H-200-W-500-S-30853.jpg
Ugly bastard if I may say, but if it's powerful enough maybe it's worth it... :roll:

[FiffA]

Yea its not a pretty sight >_<

But would be cool to roll around with :P

[HrcAk47]

I think i saw a Jagdpanther 2 somewhere :3 That would be soo good to have

This new Tiger 2... Doesnt look like it could move much with its hull so low. I bet its even heavier than its predecessor. I'd like to see some faster tanks for the Germans :realbig:

[Zeke Wolff]

This "Tiger II" was Ferdinand Porsche´s design of the King Tiger. As we all know, this design lost out and Hitler opted for the more conventional King Tiger design as we know it today. They (the designers) were so sure that their design would win, that they started produced turrets before being granted the "Go" reply, and thats why the first 50 King Tigers were equipped with the Porsche designed turret. It was mainly an upgraded version of Porsche´s loosing design for the Tiger I, still equipped with the unproven and unreliable electric transmission (which demanded huge quantities of the rare copper) and petrol engines.

~Zeke.

[Flyby]

If you're interested, I have the Löwe made, although it still needs an UVmap...
http://www.derelictstudios.net/users/flyby/Generals/1946/Loewe_version2.jpg

Although this is for another mod (CNC3), i recently started to play FOW, and must say i like it...
So... if I get a bit help on how to get modding started with FOW, i might go for a dual approach and use the models for both modding platforms...
I'm open for a model exchange, that way, both projects can advance...

Oh, and if you look for inspiration on german project vehicles, you might have a look at http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/fotosamm ... .php?cat=3 (http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/fotosammlung/index.php?cat=3) . The guy is simply amazing...

[Cromtec]

Thanks for the offer but before I make new prototype vehicles I have to finish another project.
Here's a link that might help you to get started with FOW modding.
http://digitalmindsoft.eu/wiki/index.ph ... ax_Plugins (http://digitalmindsoft.eu/wiki/index.php?title=3ds_Max_Plugins)

[Flyby]

On your site, I see you started on a 30.5cm L/16 auf Sfl Bär..
The rectangle on the gunsocket is incorrect though..It is actually a cutout of the curbed gun compartment, so that the gun has enough elevation to functions as a mortar...The frontal view is deceptive :grandpa:

[Capt.Wildstar]

I usually just sit back and watch the mods but i thought i would say some suggestions.

For the Americans(well only US but watever)
-M18 Hellcat
-M24 Chaffee
-M22 Locust
-M5 Stuart
-T-30 M3Hafttrack(105mm gun)
-M-19(AA)
-M3A3 Lee
-M-40(Heavy Artillery)
-155mm M2 "Long Tom"
-M41 Walker Bulldog(maybe)

Im not saying do all of this but that would cool to have half of these.
Maybe a few uboats or submarines

Maybe just maybe a few for Aircraft to fly like P-47s or C-47s haha but i dont care just suggesting.
Ill help tho with some of these if you want I do model and and i have my own mod for Universe at War.
But ill find the time to help if you want.


Sincerly
-Capt.Wildstar

[Dooms1988]

would be awesome if someone would make the m18 hellcat and m24 chaffe, and maybe some more English tanks.

[Capt.Wildstar]

I may try to make this.
Its a AAgun version of the M4A1
heres the link
http://bcoy1cpb.pacdat.net/Skink_WWII_p ... _Vol_3.jpg (http://bcoy1cpb.pacdat.net/Skink_WWII_photos_from_DESIGN_RECORD_Vol_3.jpg)

nice eh haha


-Capt.Wildstar

[Flyby]

The "Skink" was a Canadian design based upon the Grizzly chassis, which is the specific Canadian version of the Sherman... It is not an American design...
http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunke ... skink.html (http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/bunker/3351/allweps/skink.html)

If you want to add AA to the US side, there are other options to take, like the M19 GMC...

[Cromtec]

On your site, I see you started on a 30.5cm L/16 auf Sfl Bär..
The rectangle on the gunsocket is incorrect though..It is actually a cutout of the curbed gun compartment, so that the gun has enough elevation to functions as a mortar...The frontal view is deceptive :grandpa:

I will correct it if this model ever sees the light of day.

[Cromtec]

I usually just sit back and watch the mods but i thought i would say some suggestions.

For the Americans(well only US but watever)
-M18 Hellcat
-M24 Chaffee
-M22 Locust
-M5 Stuart
-T-30 M3Hafttrack(105mm gun)
-M-19(AA)
-M3A3 Lee
-M-40(Heavy Artillery)
-155mm M2 "Long Tom"
-M41 Walker Bulldog(maybe)

Im not saying do all of this but that would cool to have half of these.
Maybe a few uboats or submarines

Maybe just maybe a few for Aircraft to fly like P-47s or C-47s haha but i dont care just suggesting.
Ill help tho with some of these if you want I do model and and i have my own mod for Universe at War.
But ill find the time to help if you want.


Sincerly
-Capt.Wildstar
I have scale drawings for most of them but for me it takes about 2 weeks to model, texture and export one vehicle. One week during holidays. So, folks, if you want to see more vehicles finished in a reasonable time, please put together a list of up to 5 vehicles and I can start to model them. If some people join in, we could make a vehicle pack in less time.

[HrcAk47]

I dont think you will need Chaffee and Stuart, they will appear in OF2 :) Nor an U-Boat...

[Orrie]

Haha, an U-boat war in Multiplayer! x)
I'm gonna make that when I get Outfront!
Anyways...

There is a lot of vehicles I would like to have, but I think we need more Soviet.... The IS-3 can't really stand up with the Maus/E-100 ... :/

[Capt.Wildstar]

Well i could model some this i just cant texture them or anything like that.

But u should still put the Chaffee and Stuart which if i had a rough estimate of the Poly count of the most tanks that would be. I could do some if i knew so that would be great. thanks


-Capt.Wildstar

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

well i agree that we need more soviet vehicles but they didnt make alot of diferent types of heavy tanks that i would say can stand up to the Maus, But the IS-3 can take on the E100 it cant take on the Maus tank.

[HrcAk47]

x[F-Fullmetal]well i agree that we need more soviet vehicles but they didnt make alot of diferent types of heavy tanks that i would say can stand up to the Maus, But the IS-3 can take on the E100 it cant take on the Maus tank.

Golly gee, how come the Germans haven't won the war yet? 8O

Interestingly enough, T54 was out of the drawing board in the beginning of 1946, and if the war lasted long enough, first thousands of it would appear during the same year. With armour surpassing the KT and the gun simmilar to KT's, not to mention its agility, simplicity and mass production... Ya right.

Maus wasnt definite solution at all. Late war designs were made exclusively for defence. Last viable assault product was Panther 1 - Panther 2 was a lumbering beast similar to KT. And we all know, defence can't stand forever... Not against the mass productions of USSR and Allies. German was strictly slave work, and with bombings 24-7... Its wonder they kept the production going at all.

Yah, enough of me ranting :) Sorry :oops:

[Dooms1988]

The russians didnt have alot of types of tanks period. They relied more on tons of certain types of tanks.
Why doesnt someone do the Marder III (http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/al ... hiclesX=39 (http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_vehicles_adv.php?op=getvehicles&vehiclesX=39))
or the Aecher MK1 (http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/al ... iclesX=104 (http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_vehicles_adv.php?op=getvehicles&vehiclesX=104))
Maybe even the M4a1(76)W Sherman(http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/al ... iclesX=196 (http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_vehicles_adv.php?op=getvehicles&vehiclesX=196))

Some more cannons would be fun to have to.

[Cromtec]

I'll add more vehicles when I have the time.

[Dooms1988]

Do you make unit_icons for the units, or structure pictures for the things you make by chance? Like ones that look offical, like they look like they were actually part of the game from the start?

[Cromtec]

I make them after the vehicle is ready. I load them in a map add light make a close up screenshot (targa format, alpha split. It's easier then to cut it from the backround).
Load that shot into your picture editor, cut the sky. resize to the frames images size. Put them into the empty icon templates (new layer) save them.

Another and easier way is to do it within your 3d package.
Choose a side view. Render. Save as targa file, alpha split.
Do the rest as explained above.
Lighting is not that relevant in those thumbnails.

If you are talking about the schematic images, I use the toon shader in Max to do them.

[Orrie]

A nice little tutorial :)

I'll send you the files this week, I dunno really when though because I have to scramble up the files. Its easy, but I'm too lazy to start it :oops:

[Jozor]

Great mod, Any news?


Also, been lurking around the russian forums.. and I found this..
Topic:
http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en ... ic%3D41002 (http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ru%7Cen&u=http://live.cnews.ru/forum/index.php%3Fs%3Defea7fb0fcce0cdde92c115dd05202ec%2 6showtopic%3D41002)

In fashion added IS3, Maus, E100
Image:
http://live.cnews.ru/forum/index.php?s= ... t&id=16864 (http://live.cnews.ru/forum/index.php?s=efea7fb0fcce0cdde92c115dd05202ec&act=Attach&type=post&id=16864)

Seem's like theift to me. :o
Or did you give permission?

[Orrie]

lol, it has the same icon as i had on the Airplanes menu, Oo.

Seems like they used my mod for it :confused:

[dimension]

hey was that 75mm gun on the e100 supposed to work or was it scrapped before you released it?

[edike]

how to instal this mod? i instal the game and made a mob folder and dragged PaPP folder in the mod folder i made then installed the patch v1.04.1a patch than installed the editor so what i have to do now? i turn on the game and went to options and clicked on mods i clicked on PaPP and apply and the game sad something like the game is going to be terminated any help plz

[Cromtec]

I have tested it in 1.04e1 (editor)
Can you post the error message or the *.log file please?

[DANIELWW2]

Cromtec Hi, How are you doing this wonderful project :love: ?.

Greetings.

[DANIELWW2]

For those who are interested in more prototype, unfinished or experimental tanks,
here's a list of them I can model because I have nice scale drawings (Doyle, Lentz, Bradford).
I can do others too but the level of detail depends on the quality of the drawings or photos provided.
So, please tell me what you would like to see.


German--->Recon:
Based on PzII chassis:
1. Panzerspaehwagen II Ausf. M
2. Luchs 5cm
3. Gefechtsaufklärer Leopard
3a. APC "Kätzchen"

4. Porsche Typ 245-010 (5,5 cm auto cannon)

Based on the 38t chassis:
5. Aufklärer 38D (2cm and 7,5 cm AKF L/48)

Based roughly on PzII chassis:
6. Versuchsflakwagen-Leichte (2cm, 3,7 or 5cm)

7. Gep.Sfl. Flak 41 (8.8 cm)

Based on PzIV chassis:
8. Flakpanzer 341 (2cm and 3.7cm AAA mounted on a panther chassis)
9. Flakpanzer 341 (twin 3.7cm AAA mounted coaxial. This version is sometimes referred to as the "Coelian")
10. Same version as 9. but with 5.5 cm guns.

German--->small/Medium/heavy
11.E10/E25/E50/E75
12. Tiger Ausf. P2 (Porsche design, turret on the rear)
13. "Löwe" (Lion: a 70 ton tank with a 10.5cm gun)
14. Maus II (different turret)
15. Bear (30.5cm SPA, basically a big mortar)
16. small tank with 10.5 cm (similar to the Hetzer design)
17. Rutscher ("slider") (armed with 1 or 2 PAWs [recoiless rifles] and 1 LMG). There are a number of variants built primarily to defeat
the American Hellcat.

Rusian--->Medium/heavy
18. T35(A)
19. SU-14 or SU-14-1 (SPA)
20. T44
21. SU-101 tank destroyer
22. IS 7

There are a number of experimental SAMs like the "Rheintochter", Enzian, Wasserfall, wire guided bombs (Fritz-X) and AA-missiles but these are useless for the game.
Cromtec, you're the best, I like modeling any vehicles on the list, you're the only one prototype model vehicles, no one model, not because I hope that many models of vehicles from the list (I can model all the jeje) nose which tell you because I like all tanks jeje, good enough if you can model, the scheme does not really tell which is all I like.

A Greeting.

[FFA702]

can you make the p-1500 plz.btw,great work :toast:

[DANIELWW2]

Cromtec, you create the P.1000 Land Cruizer plz :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: ?

Greeting.

[Cromtec]

I have some drawings of the P-1000 but what's it good for? It would be unbeatable in game. The only thing that could damage it would be battleships or bombers.

[FFA702]

for SP mission?pleazzzzzzzz :realbig:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

it just so happends i found this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff0Jtn1ti80

[Orrie]

If the Germans gets P1000, the game balance is ruined.
Nothing of allied material that are in game can take out that beast!
(Tho, it would be cool to crush shermans with it :twisted: )

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

i say no because of the realism of the game. the border between realism and fiction would be that the thing would be way on the fictional side! it woudnt move one its to big and 2 its way to heavy! weighing in the millions of pounds its a cruiser on tacks thats all it is. you would have to transport it in peices because the sheer size and weight, and whats the point of having it its it would be to expecive, lets see you would have to chose either one massive weapon thats useless, or alot or usful tanks and infintry. plus i would rather go with the dora and gustav rails guns way before the P,1000 ratte.

[DANIELWW2]

Ya but I like to see in the game, you can also model anti-tank weapons and other guns that do harm, anyway I leave you this link: http:// http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte or http://www.kensingtonbooks.com/finditem.cfm?itemid=9384, besides modeling, you know, what was done to the Armed Assault and I can well believe it plz plz plz :love: :love: :toast: :toast: . You know which car will you create?, You can do is create a few vehicles and a pack of cars.

Greetings.

PS: But which they do not want not to download it.

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[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

yes but i think you should ease it into the game so is not to make ppl dislike the mod, you should like put the sturm tiger first then the K-5 rail gun then so on and so on till you get to the P,1000 ratte.

[DANIELWW2]

It's a good idea, but each side should be vehicles that can fight against the German tank again, not if you understand me, well if I do not understand me and what we do not understand what you mean, anyway Cromtec is that you must choose as do the new vehicles.

Greetings.

[Cromtec]

Perhaps I will add more prototypes later but not the P-1000.

[DANIELWW2]

Cromtec, What car will you create today?.

Greetings.

[Cromtec]

I'm working on vehicles for the polish early war mod.

[DANIELWW2]

Aaaaaaaaaa, how long it would take to create a T-44/100?

[Cromtec]

Usually it takes 2 days to make a tank/vehicle if you are not "distracted" by something else.
1 day for modelling, mapping and texturing, export and 1 day for basic tests and corrections. During a normal week of work, I need about 4-5 days.
Open vehicles take more time to model because there are more parts. The IK-structure of aircrafts is more complex. It depends on the model.

[Zeke Wolff]

Usually it takes 2 days to make a tank/vehicle if you are not "distracted" by something else.
1 day for modelling, mapping and texturing, export and 1 day for basic tests and corrections. During a normal week of work, I need about 4-5 days.
Open vehicles take more time to model because there are more parts. The IK-structure of aircrafts is more complex. It depends on the model.

Phew! You are a quick modeler that´s for sure! 8O

It usually takes me about 2-3 weeks for each model I make...

~Zeke.

[DANIELWW2]

Could the models for the MOW T-44/100 please?.

PD: Do you speak Spanish?.

Greetings

[Cromtec]

It usually takes me about 2-3 weeks for each model I make...

~Zeke.
Sometimes I need that too. I'm slow at texturing.

[Cromtec]

Could the models for the MOW T-44/100 please?.

PD: Do you speak Spanish?.

Greetings
Sorry, I can't speak Spanish.
Why the T-44?

[Zeke Wolff]

Sometimes I need that too. I'm slow at texturing.

Well, if I´d to do my own textures as well... I guess that I wouldn´t have made more than one new model so far... I´m lucky that ngvede volunteered to do them for me... he mumbled something about my textures not being any good... :realbig:

~Zeke.

[Orrie]

he mumbled something about my textures not being any good... :realbig:

~Zeke.

Joke of the day :lol:
I haven't really seen your textures, or have I ? :ninja:

[DANIELWW2]

Could the models for the MOW T-44/100 please?.

PD: Do you speak Spanish?.

Greetings
Sorry, I can't speak Spanish.
Why the T-44?
I would like to model the T-44/100 because apart from that I like most t-34/85 that could cope with the King Tiger (well, at least it was more powerful than the T-34/85), in addition to you model you are right, I want to learn but nobody taught me.

Greetings.

[Cromtec]

I could model the T-44 but look at the discussions the IS-3 causes.

I think both sides are right. I'm not sure whether it's a good idea to add another prototype. The Germans would have a big advantage in the prototype section. Mass and quality wise.
Not only tanks but paks too. Leave alone all those exotic weapon projects they have worked on.

I have mixed feelings about the whole prototype idea. On the one hand it adds great, sometimes revolutionary, designs to the game. On the other hand it's hard to balance it.

[DANIELWW2]

So, are you gonna create?.

[Cromtec]

No, not now. Maybe later.

[DANIELWW2]

OK.

Greetings.

[DANIELWW2]

Hello, Cromtec, model program that your vehicles?. Thank you.
What will you create?.

[Cromtec]

Polish vehicles and entities for the Enduring Freedom mod.

[DANIELWW2]

Can you say that cars are going to come out on the mods?.

PS: Can you create the model of damage of the E-100 (Tiger-Maus).

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

any pics? cuz im ichin to see new matterial

[Cromtec]

I'll do the x and xx after redoing the volumes.
pictures are in their respective threads. Perhaps i post some later.

[Orrie]

x[F-Fullmetal]any pics? cuz im ichin to see new matterial

I recommend check out his pictures on his site:
http://www.polymill.eu/

[Blub0r2k]

i would like to see the su101 ;)

but great work so far.

[DANIELWW2]

Hello Crontrec, which has already been a long time but I just give the account of a thing, because here comes the http://www.moddb.com/mods/prototypes-an ... 7#imagebox (http://www.moddb.com/mods/prototypes-and-paper-projects/images/wip-07#imagebox) tank and not in your mod?.

[Matt6767]

Hello Crontrec, which has already been a long time but I just give the account of a thing, because here comes the http://www.moddb.com/mods/prototypes-an ... 7#imagebox (http://www.moddb.com/mods/prototypes-and-paper-projects/images/wip-07#imagebox) tank and not in your mod?.
Thats a nice somua

[BigFoot]

I see the T-90, but not the T-28. Could someone please post a picture of the T-28 tank, Thanks!

[Cromtec]

Hello Crontrec, which has already been a long time but I just give the account of a thing, because here comes the http://www.moddb.com/mods/prototypes-an ... 7#imagebox (http://www.moddb.com/mods/prototypes-and-paper-projects/images/wip-07#imagebox) tank and not in your mod?.
I did it for soldiers. An export for MOW is possible but not worth the time and effort to remodel it.
Despite of that it is a very simplified version made for the Soldiers engine. MOW can handle far more details.

[DANIELWW2]

And I could spend the model?. Please.

[Cromtec]

And I could spend the model?. Please.
I erased it a long time ago.

[DANIELWW2]

No problem, you may create it again?.

[FFA702]

No problem, you may create it again?.

lol :P