[MoW]Day of Defeat mod

[Mauzer]

Play 1 soldier in the command to 8 persons
MP mod

Donwloand v1.0

[asureka]

Please more description!

Thanks

~asureka

[Orrie]

Its a mod that uses the same principal as Day of Defeat.
The players can only 1 soldier, and with having a 8vs8 match would make this sound kinda funny.
It has 2 maps that resemblance the Day of Defeat maps with the same names and have new high quality weapons.

Looks nice to be honest, and I'm gonna try this out.

I'll reupload it on my site in a sec.
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Mirror:
Link removed due to (C)opyright issues

[SS-Kommando]

I think that the mod is serious & well-made, but doesn't fit as a mod for a strategy game to be honest. Now, if you made it squad-based, I think that would be a more sensible and pragmatic approach (esp. considering you won't get as much people into a game of Men of War as you will in a Day of Defeat server, and Men of War's aiming for infantry isn't all that great when compared to that of an FPS). But this is of course just my opinion on it and it is up entirely to you, and it is also worth mentioning that I prefer big battles & I'm not so much of a Day of Defeat fan besides that.

[Orrie]

After a 40min 3vs3 game we came up with some stuff that would make the game better. ( For some of us)

Enemy not visible on minimap[/*:m:1y7y50zj]
Longer ranges[/*:m:1y7y50zj]
Skins that looks like DoD[/*:m:1y7y50zj]
A bit off-game, but more weapons[/*:m:1y7y50zj]


Was very funny, even tho some used aimbot, and not direct control.

[SS-Kommando]

Not showing enemies on the minimap is relatively easy. You should also decrease the spawnprotection time in my opinion and/or push spawns further back (played on the map donner, by the way).

The spawnprotection time you can adjust in the combat.set and battle_zones.set at least. I'm afraid I have forgotten where to make enemies invisible on the minimap, though, but you can find out how to in the general mod discussion subforum at least.

[Orrie]

The removing enemies on minimap is done in the localization files if I remember correctly.
There is a DCG minimod doing this.

[Remdul]

Hi, this is Remdul from "Forgotten Hope 2" mod (http://www.fhmod.org).

This mod contains a number of assets from FH2 without permission, namely the M1 Garand, BAR, Panzershreck. See:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imag ... nd/big.jpg (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/weapons/M1%20Garand/big.jpg)
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imag ... AR/big.jpg (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/weapons/M1918A2%20BAR/big.jpg)
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imag ... ck/big.jpg (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/weapons/RPzB%2054%20Panzerschreck/big.jpg)

Most weapon sounds were also taken from our mod.

Please remove all assets unless you have explicit written permission from our artists to use it.

[Mauzer]

Hi,
1) Mod for Men of War to forget about it it is not necessary. And for you not the competitor ;)
2) Permission? We do not use mod in commercial objective.
Where to take the permission?
In ReadMe, I have not noticed anything about that to use models in other games.
3) Please excuse, for usage of your models. :sad2:

Also excuse all who has suffered. :roll:
Sorry... Sorry

[VonGebels]

Could Anton before by someone apologizes.

[Remdul]

I think it is common sense that you ask permission to the creators. If there is no statement included with the works, then by default it is bound by copyright law (in most countries), which means you cannot copy it, unless you get written permission. It does not matter if your mod is commercial or not, it is more like moral question. In other words: it is 'nice' to give credit where due, or at least ask them.

Some of our artists would likely to have given you permission, but in the light of things they may now not. Just like you, we spend a lot of time and effort making our mod, and it disappoints them if someone takes their work without credit.

I found these assets in the "Panzer-mod v1.9.2 Tales of Valor" that were taken from FH1 or FH2:

* Bren
* BAR
* M1 Garand
* Panzerschreck
* Flamethrower
* Sten
* Stg44
* Lewis

On a personal note, I really like mods, and I don't want to stop your mod. But don't take other peoples work and claim them as your own, forget to properly credit them, or ask or notify them etc. Sooner or later someone will find out and it will hurt your reputation and/or credibility.

[Mauzer]

Yes... We will specify that models are taken from FH. Thanks for understanding.

[Remdul]

No, you must ask us for written permission. I did not give you permission to use the items listed in my previous post. You should contact us per e-mail, you can find that information on our website.

Also, the artwork listed was created by a number of persons, some of which are no longer in our mod team, so I cannot give you permission even if I wanted to. You have to ask them individually. If that is to much effort then remove it from your mod.

I can tell you already, that the BAR will have to be removed.

[spitfire05]

Hello, this is spitfire05 from FH2.


2) Permission? We do not use mod in commercial objective.
Where to take the permission?
In ReadMe, I have not noticed anything about that to use models in other games.

I want to show you something, you probably did not notice while browsing through our files:
[changelog.txt]

All content is (C)2006 the Forgotten Hope mod and may not
be reused or redistributed without prior permission.

[Instinct]

I'd like to add that the general understanding of copyright and the usage of work of others is very different between the Western and Eastern community. While our Eastern community sees no problem in using something of others without commercial intention we strictly prohibit the usage of files without permission.

So again, mods that include material of others without permission will be removed from our website. Our moderators usually do this but we can't verify every single mod, so the best way to resolve such problems is to directly contact them (moderators) in the future. They will respond quickly if you can prove the case and remove download links and contact the mod authors.

Thanks for your understanding.

[Remdul]

No problem Instinct, moderators are not at fault here.

If you need absolute proof, here's a comparison of our high-resolution textures vs. the one found in this mod. Second screenshots showing a few other textures (compare with renders posted in other thread). Even the filenames are the same.

http://img11.abload.de/img/3qz05.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~buijs512/_temp/fh2assets.jpg

There is more, including some material taken from FH1 mod, including some derived artwork copyrighted by EA, for which we received permission to use (!). On a side note, some other art seems to come from DoD:Source. Anyway, I don't want to waste my time posting proof given that Anton has already acknowledged these were 'borrowed'.

If moderators want to delete the link/lock the thread that's fine. I'm happy if Anton and other's get the idea that 'borrowing' works without permission or attribution is 'not done'.

@Anton: to make it easy for you I've asked our artists, and they have decided they will not give permission. So don't bother sending that email. Next time, just ask, there are plenty of nice guys that will let you use their stuff if you ask them politely.

[HrcAk47]

He does not care, he ripped just about any original content made for this game by other modders too.

[Ulrek]

He does not care, he ripped just about any original content made for this game by other modders too.

well he's well known for it, by looking at old forum topics at least.

on another note, the choice to rip models from a FPS was not all that wise i think.

but lets not let this go down the flame war path, i would hope the link can be deleted and this all taken care of so as to allow us to move on to more peaceful and fun topics.

but i would suggests this to anyone who wants to be on the look out for things like this.

look carefully at the models textures and little details, if a model has even just a few extra rings, or a detailed bolt action area that looks almost real, there is a chance it was made for a FPS, either that or a guy who likes very very detailed weapons for each soldier.

but i'll keep the weapons in mind that i've seen one looking at stuff, also, just wondering, but was the MG42 you guys made used in either some of the older GSM or panzer mod stuff? it looked very very detailed for a RTS model, at least one i saw aways back was.

[Mauzer]

I already all have told, my English is not good. :realbig:
And in general I consider not correct quarrels only that someone has taken models without demand. I to inflate scandal would not become. :pacman:

[Vuki_Gepard]

Any russians to explain this guy so he can understand? I think then he will realise what are we talking about.

[Zeke Wolff]

Ok, enough is enough. As Anton said, his English isnt very good and we´ve now removed all download links to his Panzer Mod from this site. We´ll allow him to add new download links when and if he gets permission to use material from other mods. However, we can´t do anything to stop him from publishing his mod on Russian sites since they have different laws regarding the fair use of material for non-commercial mods.

//Zeke Wolff, Moderator.