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Instinct
13-10-2009, 01:48
The game certainly gets a bit frustrating with the amount of units you can control, also the interface on the left is utterly cluttered.

When the prequel of MoW was released, there were big complains about the incapability to select simple units, though I think since than the game focused on a lot more troops and this squad control scheme could come in quite handy. Especially since the squads spread much more than before on their own behalf and honestly nobody can micromanage all the troops.

Got to options - Game - Alternative selection mode. Empty the box.



Now your squads will keep together.
To select individual soldiers press single click on them. To move partial units of your squad, hold shift and select units, this will auto form up squads.

Let me know your thoughts.

AniMauro
13-10-2009, 09:04
Finally!

I had big problems yesterday to control units...when you call a squad have 10 men, and you don't have time to select men and set up the attack or defence...

I will try...

Thanks Instinct

XxRAxXDonRodrigo
13-10-2009, 13:08
Awfull, it dosent work.

Expecially when you single select a soldier (with only the left click) and then you try to move the entire squad, the man doesnt follow the squad command.
May be if you fix it, this "alternative way" can be a real one.

Instinct
13-10-2009, 13:29
Awfull, it dosent work.

Expecially when you single select a soldier (with only the left click) and then you try to move the entire squad, the man doesnt follow the squad command.
May be if you fix it, this "alternative way" can be a real one.
Press the assign squad leader button on the right and he will follow again. It's not helpful when you want to have a soldier on a specific location and he runs after his squad each time you move it.

XxRAxXDonRodrigo
13-10-2009, 13:40
ok we will do an infantry test this afternoon and after i report too you

w00t
13-10-2009, 14:49
Every soldier who was selected separately and given a command, will not follow afterward commands that are given to group of solders who are selected by dragging manually a selection box or just selecting the squad leader. And i don't see any assign squad leader button.

edit:ooh, if you hold sift and then select them, then they obey.

Instinct
13-10-2009, 15:32
They also obey when you choose new hard cover (white silhouettes)

w00t
13-10-2009, 16:58
pure horror, if you select more than one solder or the squad leader then it selects all soldiers. quick spreading the forces and hiding them behind various obstacles is not possible, it's just a group on headless chickens instantly. or the selection thing should be so and i can't just use it? or i am doing something wrong?

would be nice if you select 8(which is the maximum anyway for manual selection) soldiers, then it would select all the members of the squad.
or reversing the controls that holding shift would enable the group mentality?

Instinct
13-10-2009, 17:29
If you want to select a bunch of soldiers simply hold shift.

chainsmokincoder
13-10-2009, 23:10
I've tried it and things that become a problem for me so far are :
- After shift + click selecting individual soldiers then click new location, will split the squad, however since the squad leader has not been assigned, the white ghost doesn't appear until you click dismiss squad (in this case a new squad leader assigned). Not a big deal but I still prefer the alternative method, where I can split squad more quickly by lassoing.
- When the squad is behind a cover like a bush or building, when highlight silhouette is checked their silhouette shows. When you shift + select individual squad member silhouette still shows until you click the squad leader, then the silhouette gone and you can't continue selecting individual squad ( because you can no longer see them without the silhouette). I still can't understand the need of selecting the whole squad by clicking the squad leader while there is no indicator at all which one is the squad leader on the map.
Overall, I personally don't think this method makes things easier.

note : I test this on 1.11.3, I apologize if it has been changed on later versions.

duckEfuzz
15-10-2009, 23:06
hi all. a little off topic but being as were talking about alternate infantry controls! personally i would like to be able to utilise the various aspects of the new squad system, so i would like to 'pull out' from the squad the different types of troops.
so for instance on approach cover i can use my rifles to supress the enemy behind the wall ahead whilst quickly being able to pull the smg's for a flanking attack and to relocate the mg quickly to a premium firing posistion.
maybe something like with the squad selected shift 1 picks out the rifles ,shift 2 the smg's etc
i really like the idea of being able to quickly pull off authentic hold and flank tactics that were used in real life.
and and also an ability to change grenade types whilst in direct control would be a much needed addition to!maybe number key 0 would be perfect.
but i will try out the new control system asp!

UsF
16-10-2009, 19:42
This control mode is nice but needs work to be useful. First of all I haven't found a way of separating a squad of 2 people (artillery and motor carriage), so this is a bit of a pain when trying to quickly select the artillery piece from the menu list.

Also it is hard to separate a single unit from a squad. It would be nice if shift clicking on the first unit would separate it immediately. Otherwise you click normally on a single unit and shift click on the other ones, or shift click and draw a square around multiple, if you want that. Also, you do not know who the squad leader is, unless you accidentally click on him, so in the heat of battle, it can happen that you want to select a single unit and move it to new cover, but you accidentally order your whole squad to move. Maybe squad leaders should have a permanent little badge icon over them, that indicates his status, so you know that when you want to select him solo, you would have to hold shift.