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ICrusaderI
27-01-2009, 14:08
Kinda confused about this term.
Actually if i position a tank a bit angled like imaginary 30° 45° (because if i press right mouse button i can ofcourse angle the tank but i dont know which exact angle is it) then my armor will be more effective if i get a direct it in the hull ?
If its correct what's the meaning of the values in the specification of this vehicle for example?
Pz IV G says Hull Front 50-80 mm slope 13° , then hull again sides 30 mm and slope 0°
if i get a clear info i will explain what i learnt to people who needs to know it as well, please tell me :P
Yes, if you have a flat sheet of armor, it will be more effective if the shooter is at an angle (doesn't matter if it's vertical or horizontal) other than 90 degrees, or in other words not perpendicular. If you have studied geometry, you will clearly know why. There is also another factor, since a part of the impact force will be deflected, making sloped armor even harder to pierce. The greater the angle, the better obviously.
In MoW it seems that if armor is labeled 0 degrees it is not actually 0 degrees but 90 degrees =vertical. If it's 13 degrees then it's actually 90-13=77 degrees, which is slightly tilted. So the greater the value in MoW=more efficient armor.
Zeke Wolff
27-01-2009, 14:33
Pz IV G says Hull Front 50-80 mm slope 13° , then hull again sides 30 mm and slope 0°
The above means that the front armor of the Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. G has a thickness of 50 to 80 mm and that it is tilted backwards (ie. sloped) 13 degrees from 90, ie. it is only slightly tilted backwards. The thickness depends of whether the Ausf. G is a early (50mm) or a late variant Ausf. G (80mm thick). This 13 degree of sloping means that the actual thickness of the front hull is (roughly calculated) 53~55mm thick.
The other, hull sides, means that these are 30mm thick with no sloping at all.
~Zeke.
ICrusaderI
27-01-2009, 16:36
so angling the pz4 to 77° will grant me only a 53 55 of virtual bonus in my hull armor ?
Zeke Wolff
27-01-2009, 17:49
so angling the pz4 to 77° will grant me only a 53 55 of virtual bonus in my hull armor ?
No, the data 50mm sloped at 13 degrees only deals with the tank armor itself, not the way you have the tank positioned. If you have it positioned at a angle, in real life, you should get a small extra benefit as well. If the game calculates this correctly, I don´t know since I don´t have access to the files. However, the German WW2 manual for tank vs. tank battle, strictly says "always turn your tank so that the thick frontal armor points directly to the enemy tank". German hull sides were much thinner than their fronts, and thats why flank attacks on German tanks almost always are fatal to the German tank.
~Zeke.
Hartmann
27-01-2009, 20:59
Angling your tank is (Most of the time) not worth it IMO. Even though it gives you an advantage, your making it much easier for the enemy to flank your vehicle. It can be useful for a tank like the Tiger though, due to it having very thick side armor.
It can be useful for a tank like the Tiger though, due to it having very thick side armor.
And nonexistant sloping in both front and the sides 8O
ICrusaderI
29-01-2009, 12:19
that's very clear now, thanks all
Hartmann
29-01-2009, 19:58
It can be useful for a tank like the Tiger though, due to it having very thick side armor.
And nonexistant sloping in both front and the sides 8O
I was talking about angling the tank. Read.
Eh that's you who should understand better, I was clearly saying that as Tiger's armor is thick but not sloped, you'll have to do it in direct control by not facing the enemy directly head on :D And exposing just a little bit of your side is ok because it's still nearly vertically to your enemy (practically unhittable), but your front gets a slight boost.
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