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Raziaar
24-04-2008, 23:58
Anybody here have any tips, suggestions or tweaks that can help me improve the performance of my gaming?

FoW has some incredible performance problems on my computer.

I am running version 1.04.1a

40 gigs free room on my HD.
Intel Pentium 4 2.8ghz processor
3 gigs pc3200 ddr ram running at 400
HIS Radeon x1950 512mb graphics card

My computer is entirely defragmented, and I'm just confused! The 1.04.1a patch promised to improve framerates drastically, but that doesn't seem to have happened.

I'm on the map Marvie right now as germans. The fps goes fine, about 20-30 fps but then it drops to 3-4fps, then back up to 20 fps, back down to 4, up to 20, back down to 4. Sometimes when I don't move my camera angle even.

My computer should be able to handle this well. Am I doing anything wrong? Games like Half-life 2 as well Episode 1 and 2 run flawlessly for me full settings, 8x antialiasing, 16x aniscopic filtering. I have my settings in fow turned to medium low, and even turning them lower doesn't seem to improve anything.

Is FoW just running horribly unoptimized code?

Kettenhund
25-04-2008, 08:31
It´s very simple, because of your processor limited the graphic adapter. Your are not be able to take the full power of your graphic adapter out with this very old P4 (maybe 5 years or older). Remember you graphic adapter is 2 years old or maybe younger...

If you want to play FoW smooth you must lower you graphic settings to middle and switch off antialiasing, shadows, antisoptrisch filters, and realtime water. 1024x768 will be your maximum resolution for smooth singelplayer gaming around 40-50 frames.

Raziaar
25-04-2008, 10:14
I didn't really think 2.8ghz was that slow compared to what we have today, which are dual and quad cores around the same processing power but which most applications and games don't take advantage of.


If you want to play FoW smooth you must lower you graphic settings to middle and switch off antialiasing, shadows, antisoptrisch filters, and realtime water. 1024x768 will be your maximum resolution for smooth singelplayer gaming around 40-50 frames.

I don't play with shadows, antialiasing, anisotropic filtering, and I don't have any reflections on for water. I am playing in 1024x768 and my game isn't smooth playing on some missions. The game is like, horribly unoptimized in some missions even when a lot isn't going on, because it'll constantly cycle between fast and slow, fast and slow speeds.

I play games like bioshock, crysis and halflife-2 on my computer at very acceptable frame rates on higher end settings(crysis less so, but still better than FoW).

Leads me to believe it's an optimization problem, which I hope Men of War fixes.

Jozor
25-04-2008, 11:09
Pentium 4.. Damn that reminds me of my 2001 pc running at 1.7ghz when they were new.
All I know about P4's is I had to overclock it to 1.8ghz to just play DoW's first exp. :lol:

We'll I'm running AMD Athlon x64 3700+ with a Geforce8400GS and 2gb of pc3200 ram.. I've got it at 1680x1050 with everything full apart from AA which is at 0 with 20fps, dropping to 9fps, tho some heavy maps I cant play anymore without pure lag.. unless ofc, when I play at your resolution, which raises the game to 60fps or more..
:roll:

Sooooooo then.. Maybe Faces of War is pro AMD/Geforce? :lol:

Brathering
25-04-2008, 13:55
My computer has also some performance problems in some FoW missions and I don't think its the old hardware.

AMD Athlon 64 3200+
1 GB of RAM
MSI GeForce 6600GT

Games like Half-Life 2 or D00M 3 I can play with acceptable frame rates, too. But who knows where else the problem is?

Kettenhund
25-04-2008, 15:14
First of all please don´t compare a P4 pentium with the new hardware like core2 duo. A P4 has noting to do with a core2 duo. One core of a core 2 duo have a doubled power of a old 2,8 Ghz. So please, please also not compare the frequency amount of a processor with a 5 years older processor frequency.

And Raziaar please don´t tell us that you can play with you computer crisis with a resolution somewhere over 800x600.


My computer has also some performance problems in some FoW missions and I don't think its the old hardware.

AMD Athlon 64 3200+
1 GB of RAM
MSI GeForce 6600GT

Games like Half-Life 2 or D00M 3 I can play with acceptable frame rates, too. But who knows where else the problem is?

Sorry, but this is for sure a very old rig. Half life and Doom 3 are games that have become a slightly higher amount of polishing before release. Because the amount of money that put valve in that game is also slightly higher. You can not compare a 150.000 dollar production with a 1.500.000 dollar production.(Example!!!!)

And yes, Jazor you are right, FoW and MoW have an nvidia profile and have earned a nvidia optimizing. That means it will be running smoother on nvidia cards.

Raziaar
25-04-2008, 21:37
And Raziaar please don´t tell us that you can play with you computer crisis with a resolution somewhere over 800x600.

I play with it at 1280x960 resolution. It's not on the highest settings, but it's also not on the lowest settings, and I get a decent frame rate out of it. What's so hard to understand about that? I have no reason to lie, there's nothing to gain in doing so.

And yes I know the bulk of my rig is old. The processor is still back from when I purchased the computer in 2003 in anticipation of halflife2 before it got delayed. But it's gotten me this far with the ram upgrade I had and the GPU upgrade as well. Most recent graphically intensive games aren't giving me nearly the kinds of problems that FoW is. Bioshock runs well on high settings, crysis runs well on medium settings, halflife2 runs well on absolute maximum settings with no stutter and a smooth frame rate.

I think you entirely mistake the intent of my posts here. I'm not out to get FoW and calling it horrible or anything of the sort. I love FoW, I enjoy the gameplay it has and I play it as often as I can with my friend cooperatively.

I'm just trying to figure out my performance issues that make no sense. When I can be looking at one scene, with many things on screen, and have a smooth framerate of about 20 frames per second(which is entirely playable for me in FoW, and I don't need higher). But a split second later, without any extra enemy movement caused by triggers and no camera zooming or rotation, that smooth frame rate will divide itself by 5 and become unplayable. It'll then for no apparent reason bounce back to 20 frames per second.

Most all the maps so far on the german campaign play fine for me(with the exception of the sort of laggy bridge battle early in the campaign), but this Marxie one is causing me the problems, before I even advanced into town, exactly as I described.


So to me, it's not a hardware issue. Because some areas where there is heavy action run smoothly on my machine. And some areas where there is little to no action run horridly. Even though the map with less action is smaller and less detailed as far as geometrical props. That doesn't scream hardware issue to me.