Storm over Europe 2 announcement / first look

[Kettenhund]

After groundbreaking success with Storm over Europe RWM for Soldiers Heroes of World War II we proudly announce the 2nd Part of SoE.
Storm over Europe 2 is coming to your PC in 2008, released at the same time with retail Men of War.
Storm over Europe2 RWM would be a free to download game modification for the Men of War retail pc game. The SoE2 Mod installs alongside the existing game installation allowing both the original and SoE2 RWM to be played separately without causing conflicts.
The Mod developers' aims are to rework the original game developed by Best Way and DMS within legal and feasible constraints to create a realistic combat environment for gamers. This includes adjusting the games various elements including physics, visual effects and game play. Along with changes to how the game handles, the SoE2 team intends to include additional factions, such as the British military and add to or alter existing factions so that they resemble real life combat elements found within their contemporary environments.
The Mods name, 'SoE2 RWM', is self descriptive in its aim to create a realistic combat environment on the home computer. The SoE2 team comprises a group of dedicated individuals, several of whom have backgrounds in armed services of WW2, whose sole task is to provide researched material, including statistical information, to the developers who are in turn tasked with coding and creating the mod itself. If you are looking for a fact based RTS from the perspective of company warfare, we feel SoE2 RWM will provide for your gaming needs.

So here is the first look on one of our stuff inside:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8551/promosoe2a1640cs9.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2483/promosoe2a1fp6.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=promosoe2a1fp6.jpg)

Along with this first look we searching also for members in our mod crew. If you interested in working with us feel free to contact me via PM with a sample of your work.
We need kindly people for working with 3Dsmax, Photoshop, Gem Editor and Coders of the MoW PC engine. Also people with experience in video editing and flash are needed. I want to remark that every new crewmember for SoE2 RWM will become a free copy of the Russian “Men of War” A1 now. So, we want you...

(Edit 18.04.2008):
Update one for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map called "Groesbeek Heights". The Groesbeek area was one of the key positions in "Operation Market Garden" to capture the city of Nijmegen in September 1944. It´s a area of wooded hills about 8 miles long to the east of Nijmegen.
This map is the first of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. "Groesbeek" have a size of 1300x550 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons. You will find only buy able stuff from the realistic period of time (September 1944) if you play with the realistic SoE2 Sep. 1944 setting on this map. For example "Panthers" from the 2. SS Panzercorps or "Firefly Sherman's " from Irish Guards Group. For all that will not playing our map´s with a realistic unit set-up, it is possible to play it with all stuff. Both of them are available.
We have agonize how we can display the great dimensions and lovely build details of the map for you. And we decided to make a short overfly video from our new map "Groesbeek Heights".

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/230/groesbeekpromosmallbv9.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/57/groesbeekpromocd6.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=groesbeekpromocd6.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Groesbeek Heights" for you:
Stream: Video (http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/SoE2Groesbeek_Heights_Promo.avi)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(50Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )

(Edit 22.07.2008):
Update two for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
We know the community is waiting so long for news about our modification. So here we go again for a next update. Today we want to inform you about a another big new map for SOE2. This map is totally new build from scratch and have the Brest thematic. In the year of 1944 in august the operation "Cobra" was started by the allied force to break-out from the Normandy bridgehead. This map will feature the battle of Brest with all the street fights from house to house, deadly bunkers and bloody artillery all over the map.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6035/brestpromo640x400ao4.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6135/brestpromorq4.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brestpromorq4.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Brest" for you:
Stream: Video (http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/SoE2Brest_Promo.AVI)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(103Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )

(Edit 08.02.2009):
Update three for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Our new map is set in the time period of August 1944 in the area of Mielec in south east Poland in the near of the border to the Ukraine. A plenty of fighting groups hit each other. German 23. PzD, 24.PzD
and 78. GD has contact with seven devisions of the 5. russian Garde-Armee.
So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2993/backgroundmielec640x400ct7.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5503/backgroundmielecjj2.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backgroundmielecjj2.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Milec Outskirts" for you:
Stream: Video (http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/SoE_RWM_2_-_Mielec_Outskis.avi)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(105Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention...

[Mad Cat]

New SP missions like the original SoE did for Soldiers? Or is it going to be yet another BTRH clone that has nothing but MP enhancements for MoW?

[Dilust]

A great project for a great mod team. :beer:

[Kettenhund]

Or is it going to be yet another BTRH clone that has nothing but MP enhancements for MoW?

no reply necessary

We are not going to clone BTRH. This is not necessary. Rather we are going be the "European Counterweight" to BTRH in fact of quality,realism and game play.

The first release of SoE2 RWM will focused on the multiplayer part, but we have fixed plans of singelplayer missions delivered with several patches after the first release.

I'm and we are aware of that many people loved SoE1 for the nice singelplayer missions.

[TTorpedo]

:toast:
Don´t know your history from Soldiers. But if its aimed toward realism i´m totally for it :wow:
Can we have an insight of the things you plan to add? like increased ranges/ new ammo types? off map arty? Air strikes? etc.. or is it to early on the road

[Kettenhund]

Don´t know your history from Soldiers.
In the past we were one mod team with "Instinct" as our mod leader. So we have a little,little bit experience about making modifications for soldiers. But, you will learning every day more about MoW/Gem engine2

Our main concept is already done. So it´s not to early to speak about...

In our modification you will find realistic ranges on a scale of 1:4. This come along with a bunch of new maps with a size of more then of 2 square kilometres and greater...
You will find company warfare on our modification by comparison to squad based in MoW retail.

Realism is our first priority.

[Murmeltier]

hm thats sounds awesome !

[TTorpedo]

Don´t know your history from Soldiers.
In the past we were one mod team with "Instinct" as our mod leader. So we have a little,little bit experience about making modifications for soldiers. But, you will learning every day more about MoW/Gem engine2

Our main concept is already done. So it´s not to early to speak about...

In our modification you will find realistic ranges on a scale of 1:4. This come along with a bunch of new maps with a size of more then of 2 square kilometres and greater...
You will find company warfare on our modification by comparison to squad based in MoW retail.

Realism is our first priority.

Thats awesome news! :hurray:
I myself tested with bigger ranges and it makes a all new game, specially if the speeds are all tweaked accordantly (making for an almost 1:1 simulation) For me the difficulty arises when balancing movement speeds rotation speeds bullet speeds.
I made an 1.5Kx1K map and thats big for fOW standards but 2k! :beer:

[C0ntrol]

Question, do you suppose that even the older machines can handle 2km by 2km maps? I disagree with this. Even a wellmade 500x500 is enough to put an older rig to it's knees.

Good to hear that SoE2 is on the way :) And uhm.. What's so new in the Tiger? I don't get :huh:

[Dilust]

Question, do you suppose that even the older machines can handle 2km by 2km maps? I disagree with this. Even a wellmade 500x500 is enough to put an older rig to it's knees.
Yes, I have the same fear... :sad2:

[Kettenhund]

Question, do you suppose that even the older machines can handle 2km by 2km maps? I disagree with this. Even a wellmade 500x500 is enough to put an older rig to it's knees.

Yes, of curse old rig´s will not handle such a big maps, but i think the European and American market differs from the Russian market. On the release day there will be many people on Core2Duo/8800 GT standard. And that totally enough for our mod. May be some player must pimp their old rig a little bit...
But we will find a good compromise between big maps,stuff on the map,ranges and old computers.


Good to hear that SoE2 is on the way :)

thx


And uhm.. What's so new in the Tiger? I don't get :huh:

Ähm, a realistic looking texture in relation to camouflage, division sign and equipment. Open your FoW and compare. I intended it for a first look/teaser...

More stuff is coming...
I will post(by editing the first post)in the upcoming weeks more screen shots, facts, details, video and other stuff like our new homepage and so on. Please stay tuned...

[TTorpedo]

Don´t let the old rig scalling get in the way of your intencions.
Anyway with increased ranges less things happen in game on a given place/ frame so im cofidente even old rigs will still be able to run it.

PS: Form my experience - with tanks shooting from 400/ 450 mt HMG 250 mt and rifles 150 mt ( I found out a progression in ranges from 1:5 in tanks to 1:2 SMGs better suited me) I didn't experience any lag in a 1.5 km2 map with around 10 tanks plus mortars, AT guns and plenty infantry- I´m running on a C6600 (dual core) and 7900GS ( A September 2006 rig)

[stealth_756]

So will this mod, but before I start um will this mod be like Red Orchestra on a rts scale? and the normal map sizes like ttorpedo's Rural map? or something? this is the first time i've heard of Storm over Europe mod.

[Migalex]

I loved SoH for showw2, i think was the best rival of btrh, i could not choose which one was better, even now i dont know which one is better, but if you anser the question that im gonna to make right now with the anser i want, this mod will be in 1st place for me,

I have read that Realism is your first priority, you really mean that the tank armour, speed, cannons, all the stuff will be realistic? You will get over balance? That would really really really be the best mod for me.

One more thing, will you guys put the consumes really high for some tanks? So we have really to use the tanks with caution do to the maps be big,
And about the ranges? will they be good? I really loved the ranges from soh in heroes, they were bigger then maps, but tanks couldn t penetrait anything and its hard to hit a tank that is on the other corner of the map :P

I know most of the anser you gaved in info, but i want really be sure:P

[s.pz.abt.503]

SOE it will be somthing like an officiall mod for Men of War ? Anyway intersting challange between BTRH2 and SOE...the most realistic mod will winn.
PS. Very high system requirements ! :cry:. BTRH works fine with half of this.

[kapulA]

Wow, I for one think the new Tiger skin looks incredible!
I really hope that you re-skin all of the German vehicles with a realistic camouflage pattern!

[Kettenhund]

Don´t let the old rig scalling get in the way of your intencions.
Anyway with increased ranges less things happen in game on a given place/ frame so im cofidente even old rigs will still be able to run it.

I didn't experience any lag in a 1.5 km2 map with around 10 tanks plus mortars, AT guns and plenty infantry- I´m running on a C6600 (dual core) and 7900GS ( A September 2006 rig)

Dito, our result off testing with similar numbers of stuff on a 2K map was also without any lag.


So will this mod, but before I start um will this mod be like Red Orchestra on a rts scale? and the normal map sizes like ttorpedo's Rural map? or something? this is the first time i've heard of Storm over Europe mod.

Somting like this,but with better visual experience as RO. Yes, and our maps will bigger then in the maps in retail version of Men of War.



I loved SoH for showw2, i think was the best rival of btrh, i could not choose which one was better, even now i dont know which one is better, but if you anser the question that im gonna to make right now with the anser i want, this mod will be in 1st place for me,

I have read that Realism is your first priority, you really mean that the tank armour, speed, cannons, all the stuff will be realistic? You will get over balance? That would really really really be the best mod for me.

One more thing, will you guys put the consumes really high for some tanks? So we have really to use the tanks with caution do to the maps be big,
And about the ranges? will they be good? I really loved the ranges from soh in heroes, they were bigger then maps, but tanks couldn t penetrait anything and its hard to hit a tank that is on the other corner of the map :P

I know most of the anser you gaved in info, but i want really be sure:P


We make for all tanks their own realistic penetration values,armour values,camouflage pattern and ammunition values. The balance will done only with the price of the unit. And thx for your praise for SoE1...



Wow, I for one think the new Tiger skin looks incredible!
I really hope that you re-skin all of the German vehicles with a realistic camouflage pattern

Oh many thanks for you praise too... You are the first one that notice the camouflage of the Tiger, as new. And, yes we will reskin all of the german stuff and many of the allied/russian stuff. Stay tuned for more information in the next weeks.

[kapulA]

I am no Migalex :(
Anyways, looking forward to seeing more realistic German tanks skins soon!

[Jason1]

Nice texture! More realism sounds great!

[Kettenhund]

I am no Migalex :(
Anyways, looking forward to seeing more realistic German tanks skins soon!

Sorry about this, have it corrected... (to munch Strg+c and Strg+v :confused: )


Nice texture! More realism sounds great!

Thx, again... Are you the guy from dcg mod?

[Migalex]

Great, this mod is gonna rock, finnaly a mod that balances in prices, thats great, oh and sorry, I did notice the Tiger skin (Including the simbell) but I forget to say it, its awesome, I do like to see better textures principally for german tanks, I just hate that grey, and that camo isn t much cool too.
Oh and a bit stupid question...I have been saying for people do so, a Kingtiger Henchell turret and Panther protections on the wheels, (Normally Pz5 G have it) I know you still are not on those kind of things (small differences) but its just a suggestion.
And Kapula, yes you are not me, if you were, one of us would be a copy, and i would be unique :hurray:

[Zeke Wolff]

Nice texture! More realism sounds great!

Thx, again... Are you the guy from dcg mod?

Yes, he is the mastermind behind the DCG mod.

~Zeke (who would have joined you if I only could manage to work with 3dsMax... :oops: )

[Brathering]

We need kindly people for working with ... and Coders of the MoW PC engine.In which language is the engine written (C/C++)?

[Kettenhund]

Nice texture! More realism sounds great!

Thx, again... Are you the guy from dcg mod?

Yes, he is the mastermind behind the DCG mod.

~Zeke (who would have joined you if I only could manage to work with 3dsMax... :oops: )

Zeke, you can join us without being a 3dsMax professional... :grin: A virginal unopened copy of MoW A1 is waiting for you on my desk here... :grin:




We need kindly people for working with ... and Coders of the MoW PC engine.In which language is the engine written (C/C++)?

He brathering,

How are you? Have you been done your study? Do you have time at all?

So, ok you mean which language from what? From the hard coded area? Or the language inside of the .set,.def files? Or the whole programmed computer language?

The language inside is overall english, not russian... ;)

[HrcAk47]

Nice looking Tiger there :)
Unfortunately, i can't join you, because of my obligations in EFAE.
But I have a couple of WW2 styled maps i can't use in any of my desert-related projects, which i believe i could give to you guys atleast for evaluation :). One is 95% done (around 2km x 2km, Omaha Beach), while the other is around 80% done (900x900, Harbor Town).

So if you are interested, PM me :)

[Kettenhund]

Thx for you offer, PM left my personal area to you.

[Brathering]

We need kindly people for working with ... and Coders of the MoW PC engine.In which language is the engine written (C/C++)?

He brathering,

How are you? Have you been done your study? Do you have time at all?

So, ok you mean which language from what? From the hard coded area? Or the language inside of the .set,.def files? Or the whole programmed computer language?

The language inside is overall english, not russian... ;)
Hi,

well, I would also like to participate in the modding team, but I don't know whether I can help out in anyways? Anyway :) I just asked for your search for a Coder of the MoW PC engine like you said. For me it sounds like you are looking for some one with programming skills in a programming language like C or C++ and not russian :D maybe I can help you out with polish ;)

So long...

GL&HF

[Kettenhund]

@brathering

pm was send to you...

[Zeke Wolff]

After a hard nights work at work... :evil: I think that I´ll stay on a freelance basis. You are welcome to contact me by PM or email (you´ve both) and I hereby give you promise to use anything of my creations as long as you give me credit for them (that is, if you do want to use anything that I´ve made, including maps etc.).

~Zeke.

[Kettenhund]

Update one for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map called "Groesbeek Heights". The Groesbeek area was one of the key positions in "Operation Market Garden" to capture the city of Nijmegen in September 1944. It´s a area of wooded hills about 8 miles long to the east of Nijmegen.
This map is the first of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. "Groesbeek" have a size of 1300x550 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons. You will find only buy able stuff from the realistic period of time (September 1944) if you play with the realistic SoE2 Sep. 1944 setting on this map. For example "Panthers" from the 2. SS Panzercorps or "Firefly Sherman's " from Irish Guards Group. For all that will not playing our map´s with a realistic unit set-up, it is possible to play it with all stuff. Both of them are available.
We have agonize how we can display the great dimensions and lovely build details of the map for you. And we decided to make a short overfly video from our new map "Groesbeek Heights".

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/230/groesbeekpromosmallbv9.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/57/groesbeekpromocd6.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=groesbeekpromocd6.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Groesbeek Heights" for you:
Stream: Video (http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/SoE2Groesbeek_Heights_Promo.avi)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(50Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )

[kapulA]

Is it just me or does the video seem to be corrupted? The image is completely messed up, it's impossible to make out anything.

[Instinct]

Kettenhund, try using a more standardized codec. The one you use is not available to everyone...

[Kettenhund]

Is it just me or does the video seem to be corrupted? The image is completely messed up, it's impossible to make out anything.

It´s a H.264/AVC codec. Please make sure you have the right codec installed. Or try to see the vid with VLC Player. This player is completely free and and all needed codec inside. Here is a free download link for VLC player:

http://www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_auswahl_15810728.html?t=1208510963&v=3600&s=0c849d0ca19028061d04d7dc576aa56d

On my system the video was correctly played, also with Windows Media Player...


Kettenhund, try using a more standardized codec. The one you use is not available to everyone...

What kind of codec do you recommend?

[Zeke Wolff]

Kettenhund,

My Windows Player couldnt view the video (I´m running Vista) but my favorite player, VLC which I have been using for years, had no problems at all.

The video... Excellent! For once a video that actually shows you something and with clear view etc, most often these videos are either done in a very small format (200x200) or so which makes it hard to see anything.

The map... Looks great! Is it actually based on the real place, ie the mapper worked from a photo or is it a "guesstimated" work...? Anyway, it looks really really good! The only thing missing would be a Jagdpanzer IV or two, lurking somewhere in the woods! :twisted:

~Zeke.

[Dilust]

8O Impressive... Never seen a so well done map. :punkl:
There is a football stadiun too :realbig: Very nice...

PS: for who is interested the music is by Ennio Morricone from the soundtrack of the movie "A Fistful of Dollars" (it. Per un pugno di dollari), directed by Sergio Leone.
A great western movie :beer: :beer2:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

the movie contains following video and audio codecs:
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4352/soerwm2groesbeekheightsde2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

converting movie to another videocode (e.g. XviD, DivX, Mpeg-4...) let explode filesize more than 125MB with loosing full videoquality.

here is official webside from the VLC media player. pls download and y can see movie with full quality. :yes:
http://www.videolan.org/

[Kettenhund]

Kettenhund,

The map... Looks great! Is it actually based on the real place, ie the mapper worked from a photo or is it a "guesstimated" work...? Anyway, it looks really really good! The only thing missing would be a Jagdpanzer IV or two, lurking somewhere in the woods! :twisted:

~Zeke.

No, sorry it´s based loosely on a source. But i have also map´s on my list that will build from real photograph and topographic map, a little bit scaled down but off curse real.
And, yes Zeke you are right. A Jagdpanzer IV would be very nice do hunt down those crappy Sherman´s :yes:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

@ZekeWolff & Dilust
many thanks for your praise...

next map is in work and next video will contain soldiers, tanks and other stuff for more action. :yes:

[s.pz.abt.503]

great map !!!...but i think i must buy a new computer for this size. I have just 3200+ AMD , 7300GT, 2GB. BTRH maps works without any lagg, but the size of your map it is... unseen.

[Mad Cat]

Or is it going to be yet another BTRH clone that has nothing but MP enhancements for MoW?

The first release of SoE2 RWM will focused on the multiplayer part, but we have fixed plans of singelplayer missions delivered with several patches after the first release.

I'm and we are aware of that many people loved SoE1 for the nice singelplayer missions.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s108/MadCatOmni/Soldiers%20emoticons/soldierg_beer.gif Great news for the SPers! http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s108/MadCatOmni/Soldiers%20emoticons/soldier_biggrin.gif

[mp5_sd]

Singleplayer missions!!! :love:

[TTorpedo]

Nice mapping, and a good way to show it.
Looking forward to see some action on it with the new ranges

[filon102]

nice video :yes:

[Matty148]

Nice video :realbig: the map looks great :realbig:

[filon102]

I hope we will have available A LOT of units for maps like this (prob 10 tigers, 50 troops, etc) :yes: :love:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

thx to all for compliments.

10 tigers and 50 troops? no - you dont need so much stuff on field.
1 tiger, 2 kingtiger, 1 rockedlauncher and 30 troops are enough. :realbig: :lol:
mapsize and new ranges are perfect to play this maps at least 3vs3 (or more).

[Kettenhund]

I hope we will have available A LOT of units for maps like this (prob 10 tigers, 50 troops, etc) :yes: :love:

You can play with 10 Tiger´s, but you will face then a lot of JS2...

Our unit pricing is not ready but we will make a company warfare expierience. Our plans are: you will have enough money to buy 10 tanks or more and bunch of infantry at once. Trucks will have a key role in our mod to tow cannons and "taxi" the infantry to their positions. Like in reality...

[TTorpedo]

From my experience, with "realistic" ranges load outs and speeds, you don't need to many tanks, carefully positioning and movement is the key. A well placed tank or AT will be able to take the momentum out of the 10 tank opposing force!
With increased ranges you can take enemy's from the far, but you will have to spot it firts.. and that pesky AT gun will be able to fire a lot more shots before you can close the distance and take it out. :twisted:

[Mad Cat]

Yes, but you have to admit that a full blown large scale tank battle on a large map would be great fun http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s108/MadCatOmni/Soldiers%20emoticons/soldier_lol1.gif

[TTorpedo]

Yes, and the more units less is the lucky factor.
I just prefer when there is room to maneuver so you can enlure the opposing shock force to a trap and then take their flanck.
Chaos is much more fun when it only happens in your enemy's side :realbig:

[Kettenhund]

Believe me it´s such a nice picture and totally fun if a platoon of 10 x "Pz.IV Ausf." H open fire at T/34´s on large ranges. You will always forget to play and watch this awesome spectacle. Shell of shell will fly in a realistic curve to the T34 and blow up one by one. It´s cinematic...

[readalert]

hey there, great to hear SOE is back on the realism track. We are pleasantly suprised . and wouldn't mind mapping some , but how to do 2x2km map ? Sorry for lame question I rarely visit forums . It has to be done using FOW right? I have to load a big ass "factory" map ?

Oh another question, Is any detail "hardcoded" in the MOW engine, like:
you say present scale will be 1:4 . However, we'd want to go closer to 1:1 , is that limited by anything I cannot think of now? I can think of harcoded sight ... as well penetration values that can nail this coffin ?

[mp5_sd]

In the F2_menu/land/polygons (with left_mouse_button you can add portions of map...and with right_mouse_button you can remove{delete] portions of map)

---the cursor(that circle) can be increased by pressing numpad "+"

---hope to see screenshots from your map in the next weeks :pacman:

[TTorpedo]

From my knowledge and experience theres no limits, beyond what your machine can handle. At list (1.5k x 1k) do not present any problem, and theres no hardcoded limits.

You can set your map dimension from the beginning, i think the default is 200 x 200, but you can enter any number there, then let the engine think it over and off you go.

As for the 1:1 gameplay I can only recall a minor problem from my tests- your soldiers will waste all their ammo in a blink, because they keep shooting independently off distance/ acurancy, if they see it they shoot it! Thats hardly a problem and im sure the rules of engagement cam also be modded as well.

[readalert]

sounds great, thanks for all your help ,Im proud to be part of this community :)

[Kettenhund]

im sure the rules of engagement cam also be modded as well.

Yes, it´s modifiable. We are currently tweaking the engagement ranges and the maximum shooting ranges. And it´s very funny but also violent if a "willy´s MB" with an .50 cal. HMG wipe out 30 infantry men on 800 meters. Our decision is not completely done from what ranges the AI will react and shooting by itself. This tweaking process cost a lot of time.

[TTorpedo]

im sure the rules of engagement cam also be modded as well.

Yes, it´s modifiable. We are currently tweaking the engagement ranges and the maximum shooting ranges. And it´s very funny but also violent if a "willy´s MB" with an .50 cal. HMG wipe out 30 infantry men on 800 meters. Our decision is not completely done from what ranges the AI will react and shooting by itself. This tweaking process cost a lot of time.


Yes i know :brickwall:
But its the most important as its the core gameplay elements that makes a game (mod) stand out, you can always add more skins or vehicles later, thats not important (for me).
And an MG should rule the field as they did in fact!
800 mt! I thought you where going for 1:4 (2000mt = 500mt tops) Hey! but 800 its fine with me! just as long as I can mortar shell that willys :D from a safe distance.

Good to see it shaping up, i´m looking forward for this mod just as i´m for the actual game.
I would like to offer more than my enthusiasm but i´ve no time at the present, even if i add the skills.
PS: You can use my Rural map even if only for testing, and your skilled mapper can change it if time urges and need arises.

[[SOE]Wolfi]

But its the most important as its the core gameplay elements that makes a game (mod) stand out, you can always add more skins or vehicles later, thats not important (for me).
And an MG should rule the field as they did in fact!
800 mt! I thought you where going for 1:4 (2000mt = 500mt tops) Hey! but 800 its fine with me! just as long as I can mortar shell that willys :D from a safe distance.

he means 800m in real, in game thats 200 m

[Kettenhund]

I should answer in the future with this display format like this " 800 meters (200 meters in game)"...

[TTorpedo]

I´m advised now.
Maybe in game mt indication can also be tweaked (x4) so they show the real data. Although it would be confusing when in short distances a 20 mt grenade throw distance would become 80 mt!

How are you handling the small distances like in the above example or pistol/ smg / personal Ant-tank weapons?
Do you keep the 1:4 ratio or go for 1:3, 1:2 , 1:1 progression

[S4S4]

Is it possible to join to this modding team? I can make models, UVMaps and texture. Well, honestly my texturing skill isn't the best but I have the basic knowladge. :oops:

[Kettenhund]

I will send you an PM in the evening... stay tuned...

[Migalex]

No offense but, WHERES THE NEWS! Can t wait

[[OoO]No.Mam]

next NEWS are comming soon.

im working on next map every day 2-3 hours, second map (1.750m x 650m - ingame) will be finished next 10-14 days. :wow:

[Migalex]

Yay, can t wait for the news! my favourite mod from Showw2 is coming...
Cn I ask a question? Are you making for Fow? Because 2 reasons, 1, is the first time we hear you say that was wen mow realese you would too, but now the realease is gonna take longer, and second reason is, you re working so hard, making maps, skins and stuff, all in fow i guess, all the mods i have seen they are waiting fow mow, you guys are actually working, so my guess is, you gonna realese like a beta for fow? and do the rest for mow? Or just for mow?
thanks

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Yay, can t wait for the news! my favourite mod from Showw2 is coming...
Cn I ask a question? Are you making for Fow? Because 2 reasons, 1, is the first time we hear you say that was wen mow realese you would too, but now the realease is gonna take longer...
no we dont make this mod for FOW. this mod works only with MoW.
we release our mod when final version from Men Of War is avaiable (september 2008) - we dont release the mod for beta2. pls have patience.


...you re working so hard, making maps, skins and stuff, all in fow i guess...
no. we dont work with stuff or map-editor from FOW. we are working with stuff and editor from Outfront(A1-russ.). this is the first part from MoW - but only avaiable in russia & ukraine.

[Migalex]

Well, wheres the News? :sad2:
Some Time i dont see any thing happen in this topic..............

[[SOE]Wolfi]

yes, sorry we were a little bit lazy in the last weeks. but no.mam is still working on his new multiplayer map and we will present a new video of that map!

[[OoO]No.Mam]

ok, here are some impressions from our new map. (1500x650 meters in game)
map is finished for 85%. now im working for "fine-tuning" (trees, boxes, bushes...).
name from this map? "Top Secret" :lol:

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[HrcAk47]

Harbor looks nice, but i think you should move those coastal guns away from the city and pointed towards the sea, and also in bunkers. Some classic PaK's should replace them in the cities :)

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Harbor looks nice, but i think you should move those coastal guns away from the city and pointed towards the sea, and also in bunkers. Some classic PaK's should replace them in the cities :)
thx for praise. most from costal guns shoots toward to the sea.
i think i change costal guns toward to city against normal Pak's or limit the ammunition from costal guns.
and yes, i will replace some Pak's, MG's or Flak's in the city.

[Zeke Wolff]

Coastal guns doesnt look very realistic placed out in the open, or as in this case, with no roof over them. Remember that coastal guns were expensive to produce and thus, always installed in prepared gun installations, like concrete bunkers etc. To defend the city from land, I would recommend the use of PAK´s, FlAK88´s and 20mm FlAK 30´s (both single and 4-barreled versions). And of course, plenty of machinegun nests.

The city also look a bit too barren (empty). Add a lot more bushes, trees, barrels, cracks in the asphalt, flowers, etc to it. As it is now, it doesnt look like townspeople are actually living inside it and doing what townspeople usually do... and perhaps a company of Jpz 4´s should look nice in that large empty townsquare as well! :realbig:

~Zeke.

[Orrie]

That map looks awesome!
I like the "Stronghold City" idea, even tho your using Naval Guns.


Why not use the 3x 300mm? XD

[[OoO]No.Mam]

The city also look a bit too barren (empty). Add a lot more bushes, trees, barrels, cracks in the asphalt, flowers, etc to it. As it is now, it doesnt look like townspeople are actually living inside it and doing what townspeople usually do... and perhaps a company of Jpz 4´s should look nice in that large empty townsquare as well! :realbig:
barren? empty? ... i know. :realbig: exact this things are the last 15% to get done the map.
by such mapsize i cant set so much stuff into map, bevore all polygons or all highs from ground are 100% done. (editor allways crashing by useing high or polygon tools with too much stuff into map) :sick:


Why not use the 3x 300mm? XD
y mean this one? 8O
http://games.cnews.ru/vtv/screens/vtv2_bpo/aag :lol:

[Zeke Wolff]

No.Mam]by such mapsize i cant set so much stuff into map, bevore all polygons or all highs from ground are 100% done. (editor allways crashing by useing high or polygon tools with too much stuff into map) :sick:

Perhaps making the future maps a bit smaller then? Personally, I very much prefer to have a excellent nice maps with lots of features on it rather than having a kick-ass big map with much less features... but thats just me.

~Zeke.

[TTorpedo]

For me is the other way around!
I prefer big scale maps. Less stuff but bigger distances. Cover items become more important as they are harder to find environment becomes less franticly but more tactical.
If work/ stuff is concentrated on the key shocke points you might achieve the best of the two worlds
In the end it all comes down to the mod/ gameplay you are aiming to.

[Orrie]

No.Mam]

Why not use the 3x 300mm? XD
y mean this one? 8O
http://games.cnews.ru/vtv/screens/vtv2_bpo/aag :lol:

Yes! Use it! :D
Its fantastic against hordes of infantry (of course after you have modded it a little :grin: )

[[OoO]No.Mam]

here can y see finished areas from our last map.
hope, looks now more habitable. :yes:

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3536/080627163000sy2.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=080627163000sy2.jpg)http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/3032/080627163100ha6.th.jpg (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=080627163100ha6.jpg)http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1272/080627163200pn5.th.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=080627163200pn5.jpg)

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[Zeke Wolff]

Now it look much more like a city full of live. The only thing that looks a bit off, is the bomb crater just outside the front of the church. A bomb/shell exploding that close to a building, should at least have made some structural damage on the church and/or tore up a bit of the sidewalk outside the church.

Either move the crater a bit away from the church and/or add some damage to the building and sidewalk. Other than this, the map looks great!

~Zeke.

[mp5_sd]

One of the best city maps I've ever seen! 8O

[[OoO]No.Mam]

...The only thing that looks a bit off, is the bomb crater just outside the front of the church. A bomb/shell exploding that close to a building, should at least have made some structural damage on the church and/or tore up a bit of the sidewalk outside the church...
uuups. too much STRG+Copy and STRG+Paste. :lol:

thx @ all for tips and praise.

[sgt_steiner]

the city map looks lush (great) i personaly love street to street fights that the map looks great for!!!
good work man :toast: !!!

[[OoO]No.Mam]

thx steiner.
i think this map will be finished this weekend and i upload a video for a preview with full action on this map soon. :realbig:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

hello2all Men of War fans.
now i've finished the next map for our 'SoE2 RWM' mod. :wow:
here can y see some impressions from this map called "BREST".
i will upload an overfly-video, where you can see full size from the map whith all placed stuff next days.
hope y like it. :yes:

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[sgt_steiner]

oh my god, they are beutiful, but i am concerned about multiplayer games running like a brick with all the buildings m8! have you play tested the maps with anyone yet?

[sergentpolo]

Very nice!

It felt embushes with this big city and these small alleys! :twisted:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

we are testing every map from our mod with diffenent computer specifications thoroughly.
(minimum: P4, 1GB Ram, 128MB Graphikcard with "normal" ingame grafik settings)
you can play all maps without any lags/bricks. our mod don't need higher computer specifications as the retrail from Men of War or Outfront2. :)

with P4, 1GB Ram, 128MB Graphikcard you can play with "normal" ingame grafik settings...
with C2D 6850, 2 GB Ram, 768MB 8800 GTX you can play with "maximum" ingame grafik settings...

[Eger]

Nice mp maps.
I like this map and it reminds me forgotten "kustrin" :realbig:

[sgt_steiner]

thats good news no.mam the reason i asked is that ive seen a few mods that have looked fantastic, but when playing them they were prone to severe lagg.
thanks for quick answer!!!

[HrcAk47]

thats good news no.mam the reason i asked is that ive seen a few mods that have looked fantastic, but when playing them they were prone to severe lagg.
thanks for quick answer!!!

Well that is the difference, this is a map for A1/MoW... FoW is known for its shaky MP... I saw lag on 200x200 maps :I

[[OoO]No.Mam]

thx2all for praise.

we all know that the gameengine and netcode from FOW was terrible and verry laggy.
the actual version from Outfront2 (A1) works perfect with this mapsize and i think gameengine and netcode will be more better with Men Of War.
our map (brest) gets only laggy when 2 rockelauncher shoot at same time on same place. :confused:
i think Men Of War will have the same systemspecification diagram as Beta1 or Outfron2 where gamehoster can see good or bad systems. (you can kick players with bad systems :ninja: )

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8605/080714103200gk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Kettenhund]

Update two for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
We know the community is waiting so long for news about our modification. So here we go again for a next update. Today we want to inform you about a another big new map for SOE2. This map is totally new build from scratch and have the Brest thematic. In the year of 1944 in august the operation "Cobra" was started by the allied force to break-out from the Normandy bridgehead. This map will feature the battle of Brest with all the street fights from house to house, deadly bunkers and bloody artillery all over the map.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6035/brestpromo640x400ao4.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6135/brestpromorq4.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brestpromorq4.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Brest" for you:
Stream: Video (http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/SoE2Brest_Promo.AVI)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(103Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )

[TTorpedo]

Great movie "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", oh! and yours to :D I wish I could drive does subs

[mp5_sd]

Man...you can make an entire campaign based on this map! :D
---observation: that market place from the picture....if the enemy has to occupy the buildings from surroundings,there will be a grenade rain; the market defense will be useless...
---btw, it's looking good in the landscape
:D

[[OoO]No.Mam]

thx2all for praise. :D

Great movie "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", oh! and yours to :D I wish I could drive does subs
all movies from "Sergio Leone" or "Sergio Corbucci" with sound from "Ennio Morricone" are great movies. :lol:

Man...you can make an entire campaign based on this map! :D
---observation: that market place from the picture....if the enemy has to occupy the buildings from surroundings,there will be a grenade rain; the market defense will be useless...
---btw, it's looking good in the landscape :D
best units for fighting on these "market place" are Infatriesquads, MGunners & Mortars. last but not least Flamers (burning down all houses near place - thats a massive fire-spectacle :lol: )
later y can buy a rockedlauncher and destroy completely the whole city. thats look cinematic. 8O

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6971/unbenanntmk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[s.pz.abt.503]

the map is bigger than my town is(anyway great map). Some computers will burn. I want to know what sistem requirement will be for this map to move without frames. i have AMD X2 5000+, 2gb ddr2 800mh,7300GT 256mb.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

...i have AMD X2 5000+, 2gb ddr2 800mh,7300GT 256mb...
dont worry. your computer works fine with our mapsize. :wow:

[Dilust]

A single player mission with this map would be a dream.

[Kettenhund]

Indeed a single player mission would be a very nice addition to this map. For instance a time correct mission to defend Brest as long as you can against the allied forces... :)

[[OoO]No.Mam]

A single player mission with this map would be a dream.
we are searching new modmembers who have experiences in "scripting". all are wellcome. :realbig:

cause i havent any knowledge about "scripting" and i cant guarantee ive time to learn it till end of september.
i must complete next two maps till game-release. :wow: hurry up. but we will do our best. :typing:

[mp5_sd]

It's hard to find in our days a good scripter. Everybody has specialized in making maps, but missions......
And the good ones are occupied with theyr mods. :roll:

[Orrie]

Outfront A1 is going smooth on my laptop even with most graphics on high, and its nearly 1 year old.
So I guess most desktops will be able to run SOE2 maps smooth. (Maybe not on high, but as you can enjoy it.)

The Gem2 Engine thats been used in Outfront A1 smoothes nearly everything.
In FoW, everytime someone drove into a building with a tank, MASSIVE LAG. Now on Outfront A1, bearly none! :)

So Outfront A1 is less laggy then FoW, therfore I guess MoW will be even less laggy! WHICH IS GREAT!!!

PS: Any room for a betatester? :insane:

[Migalex]

Any news?????? neeeews???
Anyways i got this questions...
1. Mow will have new vehicles which A1 does not have, and maybe weapons and stuff, will you use the vehicles on your mod? How by the way?

2. Will you guys release the mod just after mow be released? In september i guess?

3.What are the ranges effectiveness? like, 200 in game means 2000m?

4. Will it be as cooler as showw2 Soe1? :P

thxs

[[OoO]No.Mam]

1. Mow will have new vehicles which A1 does not have, and maybe weapons and stuff, will you use the vehicles on your mod? How by the way?
all SP and MP vehicles are avaiable in our mod. eg. y can now buy Thor/Odin in MP. thats rock. :insane:




2. Will you guys release the mod just after mow be released? In september i guess?
we hope, we can release our mod end of september. but we must change all setting in our mod again because MoW have completely other ranges and other penetration system as Outfront2.




3.What are the ranges effectiveness? like, 200 in game means 2000m?
1:4 -> 2000m reality = 500m ingame
but we must compare the new ranges with new MoW maps. we hope the new MoW maps are much bigger than FoW/Outfront2.




4. Will it be as cooler as showw2 Soe1? :P
YES. :lol:

[Orrie]

No.Mam]
1. Mow will have new vehicles which A1 does not have, and maybe weapons and stuff, will you use the vehicles on your mod? How by the way?
all SP and MP vehicles are avaiable in our mod. eg. y can now buy Thor/Odin in MP. thats rock. :insane:

Thats just insane, I tried that with some of my friends.... BOOOM *half-of-the-enemy-army-dead*. xD


I really like the stability in Outfront. More thing could be done, and more things could be spammed :insane:

[Migalex]

Lol, Mow will own so much, and with my favourite showw2 to mod, omg, best game of all times (By the way, soe1 was very realistic keep it as realistic it was, but pls, dont put sherman M4a2 64 of front hull armor! its 51

[SS-Kommando]

It seems like this mod will be absolutely great I have to say! I'm more than willing to help out with the playtesting if you guys will need any help with that.

Good luck with the mod either way!

/SS-Kommando

[kapulA]

Lol, Mow will own so much, and with my favourite showw2 to mod, omg, best game of all times (By the way, soe1 was very realistic keep it as realistic it was, but pls, dont put sherman M4a2 64 of front hull armor! its 51

Well, if you do the calculations, it should actually have around 90mm of frontal armor since those 50mm are sloped (in FoW). But if MoW's new ballistics system delivers, manually calculating armor thickness due to slope won't be necessary anymore.

[[SOE]Wolfi]

it will be simulated

[Migalex]

actually, Sherman does not have much slopped armor, and slopped, its like 51mm its going to 70 or something, T-34 has 75

[Rafo]

Jumbo has the most
thats why it owns soo much in matches especially with the new angle calculation system
T34s seem crap when they go against it xD
Jumbo owns :lol:

[SS-Kommando]

actually, Sherman does not have much slopped armor, and slopped, its like 51mm its going to 70 or something, T-34 has 75

The T-34's frontal hull armor is 45mm thick and has a 30 degree slope. It is in practice 90mm thick because of that. Here's a armour thickness calculator that I have found very useful: http://www.panzerworld.net/armourcalculator.html

/SS-Kommando

[kapulA]

Umm, that's not correct, in practice it's 78 mm thick. Have you even used the calculator on that one? ;)

[SS-Kommando]

Umm, that's not correct, in practice it's 78 mm thick. Have you even used the calculator on that one? ;)

Yes, and according to the calculator it is 90mm thick. Are you sure it is infact 78mm thick in practice? And do you have anything to back it up if so? Not trying to be rude here; I'm simply open to new knowledge, which is always appreciated.

/SS-Kommando

[kapulA]

Umm, just enter armor thickness of 45 and a degree of 35 from horizontal and see which result you get in the calculator ;)

Edit: After further inspection though, we might be talking about different T34s?
I was talking about the earlier 76 model which had 45mm sloped at 35° while the 85 had 45 at 30°
It seems this was just a misunderstanding?

[Kettenhund]

Please please calm down a little bit, we wan´t have a flaming thread in here.
All sources (russian/german) stated out that t34 hull have 45mm armour with 30 degree.
That means if you see it horizontal, a AP round must go through 90mm steel to penetrate.
But this steel is compared to german rolled homogeneous steel (basic type of steel plate) a poor metal.
Armour calculation in MoW is near the edge of realistic, but a fundamental simulation left in the system!
This is the BALLISTIC CURVE of AP shells. If you scaled down the ranges of every cannon, you may also scale down the curves of every shells. For example: a AP shell of 75mm Kw.K.42 L / 70 fly´s on 2000 meters in realism in a ballistic curve. That means the 30 degree from t34´s armour plate is then square. The shell come from above and eliminate the benefit of sloped armour totally. This is why t34 was knocked out several times from 2500 meters and more.
Concluding this we see that we have realistic armour and penetration calculation but we a a totally arcade ballistic system. All shells fly almost with minimal or without any influences from ballistic and gravity. The fly almost horizontal over the map.
In our modification we will have larger ranges and also realistic ballistic curves for every cannon.

[Zeke Wolff]

Glad to hear that you guys are still working on this mod... I almost feared that it was dead since there hasn´t been any recent updates to it.

~Zeke.

[HrcAk47]

Yea, why not devupdate us a bit more often? :)

[Kettenhund]

We are waiting of release MoW retail. Beta is still not, or little bit modable. Work is in progress...stay tuned please. Don´t worry ZekkeWolff your work is in good hands and will bring a lot of fun for all in our mod. It´s a shame that the promised different ammunition is not in the beta. We need APCR, APDS and Heat ammunition... :rtfm:

[SS-Kommando]

Umm, just enter armor thickness of 45 and a degree of 35 from horizontal and see which result you get in the calculator ;)

Edit: After further inspection though, we might be talking about different T34s?
I was talking about the earlier 76 model which had 45mm sloped at 35° while the 85 had 45 at 30°
It seems this was just a misunderstanding?

I'm not sure about the mod. 1940, but all of the 1941-1943 models have 45mm at 30° according to my sources. I think you confused the Panther's slope with the T-34's (the Panther has 80mm frontal armor with a 35° slope).

/SS-Kommando

[TTorpedo]

We are waiting of release MoW retail. Beta is still not, or little bit modable. Work is in progress...stay tuned please. Don´t worry ZekkeWolff your work is in good hands and will bring a lot of fun for all in our mod. It´s a shame that the promised different ammunition is not in the beta. We need APCR, APDS and Heat ammunition... :rtfm:

Yes indeed! but technically they didn't promised it. And don't forget smoke shells! especially for mortars.
Are you going to keep the present (beta) speeds on your mod? I m referring to infantry, tanks, hand pushing weapons, they all move at lightning speeds (have you ever seen a scout crawling! looks like Michael Phelps on water).. but then take ages to trow a nade
Looking forward to your mod

[HrcAk47]

Well, i took a look at the beta files, and i can say there is a possibility to actually do something with the shells :D

But really... Beta does have a few slip-ups... :huh:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

dude im a huge fan of the first one, thanks the holy one that theres a new one coming out lol :wow:

cheers to you guys :toast:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

hi2all,

today i have a "small" update.
we have added the frontline-mode (3vs3) in our "Brest" map.

following modes are available in all our maps:
-battlezone
-captureflag
-combat
-combat FFA
-frontline
-heavyload

here y see the "attaking" view:
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7311/01sk7.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01sk7.jpg)http://img371.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4549/02gc9.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02gc9.jpg)http://img371.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/9705/03cd3.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03cd3.jpg)http://img367.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5825/04ia1.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=04ia1.jpg)http://img258.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/319/05cg6.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05cg6.jpg)http://img367.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

here y see the "defending" view:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/575/10ut9.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10ut9.jpg)http://img367.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7883/11qx8.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11qx8.jpg)http://img371.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5929/12je9.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12je9.jpg)http://img258.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/94/13mc5.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13mc5.jpg)http://img258.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3001/14ee9.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14ee9.jpg)http://img371.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention... :insane:

[mp5_sd]

Oh mein Gott! What a city!! 8O 8O 8O

[Dilust]

Nice work. :toast:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

very nice work guys, ahhhh its like waiting :wilting: for your first child to be born and your gonna be a daddy you just want it to get here sooner so your girl will stop hitting you with the excuse oh its just the hormones lol :lol:

[Zebah (szebus)]

wowwwww :wow: nice big map with city wayting to be destroyed 8O :twisted:

[Orrie]

No.Mam]hi2all,

today i have a "small" update.
we have added the frontline-mode (3vs3) in our "Brest" map.

following modes are available in all our maps:
-battlezone
-captureflag
-combat
-combat FFA
-frontline
-heavyload

(Pictures removed for smaller Quote)

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention... :insane:

Thats was a very nice update! The maps is very detailed which is just what I like!
Can't wait to roam around with the tiger in it :insane:

Good job!

[filon102]

No.Mam]hi2all,

today i have a "small" update.
we have added the frontline-mode (3vs3) in our "Brest" map.

following modes are available in all our maps:
-battlezone
-captureflag
-combat
-combat FFA
-frontline
-heavyload

(Pictures removed for smaller Quote)

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention... :insane:

Thats was a very nice update! The maps is very detailed which is just what I like!
Can't wait to roam around with the tiger in it :insane:

Good job!

one problem more detail = more lag

:pang:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

one problem more detail = more lag
no lags - map works fine with outfront2. and MoW code is much better than Outfront2. :wow:

[Zebah (szebus)]

Will there be maps with big lakes or rivers with boats on them ? :grin:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

so is this for FoW and MoW or just MoW

[filon102]

No.Mam]
one problem more detail = more lag
no lags - map works fine with outfront2. and MoW code is much better than Outfront2. :wow:
good to hear :realbig:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

next maps for our SOE mod are in progress (90% done :wow: ). here can y see some impressions from our next map made by our teammate "Aldemar".

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9663/090108162900gx8.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108162900gx8.jpg)http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/411/090108162901ti8.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108162901ti8.jpg)http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8430/090108163000yw4.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163000yw4.jpg)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3622/090108163001gk1.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163001gk1.jpg)http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6167/090108163002ti9.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163002ti9.jpg)http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9683/090108163003pw4.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163003pw4.jpg)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9655/090108163100pd0.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163100pd0.jpg)http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/811/090108163101nj2.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163101nj2.jpg)http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9552/090108163102ta7.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163102ta7.jpg)
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2730/090108163200gy5.th.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163200gy5.jpg)http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2190/090108163300hy7.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163300hy7.jpg)http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7276/090108163301ym9.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090108163301ym9.jpg)

[Dilust]

No words may describe my admiration for your creations.
Maybe this emoticon maight: 8O :woah: :love:

[Orrie]

Very nice! :D

[Desaix]

Greta work!
Map looks awesome as usual...
Any update on the release date...well I know MOW has not been issued yet... :?
Aside from maps, which % of the mod is finished?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Aside from maps, which % of the mod is finished?
most work (think 70% :huh: ) for our mod (aside maps) is done. the rest of 30% will be done, when MoW is avaiable.


next map will be finished next few days. we must only add some small details.
i think overview video from this map will be able this weekend. :yes:

& the map after next is done 60%. :wow:

[Desaix]

Thanks for the fast reply.

I saw some pages above a discussion about smoke shells?
Have you been able to include smoke grenades fired by mortars and tanks in your mod ?

[Flanker15]

You said the first release won't have any SP missions but will the realisim and gameplay improvments be useable with the stock SP missions?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

hi MoW fans,
today we have a small update about our mod.

- the map from Aldemar ist done. overview-video will be avaible next days. :yes:

- next map is done for 75%. here are some screenshots. have fun. :realbig:


http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/821/090201172400jp0.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172400jp0.jpg)http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2043/090201172401ki9.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172401ki9.jpg)http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5770/090201172402dk2.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172402dk2.jpg)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7704/090201172502vt4.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172502vt4.jpg)http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1108/090201172500jh9.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172500jh9.jpg)http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2083/090201172501mz3.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172501mz3.jpg)

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8103/090201172600sg1.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172600sg1.jpg)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1516/090201172601dj7.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172601dj7.jpg)http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3069/090201172602bi0.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090201172602bi0.jpg)

[pelitys]

That looks amazing :insane: And so much space!

[kapulA]

Great work on the map No Mam, must have taken a while, eh? :)
Where is it supposed to be set, East Prussia in '44?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

thx 2 pelitys & kapulA for y praise.


Great work on the map No Mam, must have taken a while, eh? :)
Where is it supposed to be set, East Prussia in '44?
you are right. theme form map is "East-Front Russia" Okt. '44. :lol:

[dazzd]

WOW! The maps are looking great guys. I played the orgiinal SoE to death and loved every second of it, cant wait for the new addition!

[Kettenhund]

Update three for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Our new map is set in the time period of August 1944 in the area of Mielec in south east Poland in the near of the border to the Ukraine. A plenty of fighting groups hit each other. German 23. PzD, 24.PzD
and 78. GD has contact with seven devisions of the 5. russian Garde-Armee.
So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2993/backgroundmielec640x400ct7.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5503/backgroundmielecjj2.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backgroundmielecjj2.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Milec Outskirts" for you:
Stream: Video (http://www.eurolight.aero/kundencenter/SoE_RWM_2_-_Mielec_Outskis.avi)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(105Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention...

[pelitys]

That map is HUGE 8O

[stealth_756]

^ Agreed, what song is that?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

^ Agreed, what song is that?
Title: You're A Soldier Now
Composer: Steve Jablonsky
Album: Soundtrack - Transformers: The Score

[FFA702]

5/5 , nice map,but sound abit lagy...

[Kettenhund]

5/5 , nice map,but sound abit lagy...

Belive me, it will not lag on any of our maps...

The most problems of lag in game is:

1.) older rigs but the user turns the settings to high
2.) bad system conditions like:
-never make defragmentation off hdd
-or/and big,nasty,uncleared registration
3.) hdd space is to small
4.) Windows installation is broken/5 jears old/not patched/warez windows etc.

and not the game or the map...

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

im a huge fan of SOE RWM to hear that you have another SOE coming out, man i hopes better then the last one and the last one was a HUGE succsess greatest mod ever in my mind. but what i heard before FoW when i played SHoWW2 is that you guys wernt making another SOE?

[sossenbinder]

Kettenhund, great looking maps. You wrote, you will release when MOW comes out. Now it is. When do u plan to release us this great looking MOD?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

When do u plan to release us this great looking MOD?
i think we need at least 3 weeks (or more) to finish the first part from our mod. at time we cant say an exactly date for release. to many settings must be changed new again.
sorry for bad news.

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

thats cool, i cant wait for the mod to be released. it looks so cool. oh you should add japan if you havnt already thought of it?

[sgt_steiner]

i think you can be forgiven for a wee bit extra time no.mam, this is one of the mods that will be worth waiting for!!!

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

so whats new with the mod? any pics or devupdates?

[[SOE]Wolfi]

we are working at the settings so there is not much what we can show u, but we will give u a video the next days about our new map called "kurland´45"

[[SOE]Wolfi]

and there wont be japs in our mod (cause the mod is called storm over europe and not storm over eurasia), also they wouldnt make sence because they wont have any chance in a mp match without there MOW prototypes

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

well after SOE can you make another version of SOE but insted of europe its in the pacific also make a SP camaign that allows you to fight on like Iwo Jima and guam and tinian saipan and guadalcanal and all the most famous battle of the pacific

[pelitys]

x[F-Fullmetal]well after SOE can you make another version of SOE but insted of europe its in the pacific also make a SP camaign that allows you to fight on like Iwo Jima and guam and tinian saipan and guadalcanal and all the most famous battle of the pacific
/drool
That would be so awesome! Having read Saburo Sakai's "Samurai" I can't wait to fight for the control of Pacific :realbig:

[MiB]

Hey soe makers!

I very hope u wont it ****up, because u have to just copy all settings of soe 1.8(BEST MOD EVER). That was perfekt! Dont change anything, maybe the range of fire!

I am looking forward to test new soe!

:beer:

[Krieg]

Im seeing a problem here :!: :!: :!: The maps are SOOO BEAUTIFULLL that the players will not have time to play!! They will only stay on theyr desks like this: 8O :insane: :wilting:

Great work, best maps ever seen!

Keep it up!! :realbig:

[★priv.alex(lv)☭]

keep up the good work guys :beer2: :beer: :wow: :booyah: :wow: :booyah:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

yeah very nice maps well done

[[OoO]No.Mam]

thx 2 all for y praise.

next map is in work. same size as other maps and 60%-70% city. :wow:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

No.Mam]next map is in work. same size as other maps and 60%-70% city. :wow:
map stopped. :( ...

.... but other map in progress. here some screenshots. :o

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1203/090307220400.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220400.jpg)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/206/090307220401.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220401.jpg)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1184/090307220500.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220500.jpg)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3808/090307220501.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220501.jpg)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3269/090307220502.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220502.jpg)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2051/090307220600.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220600.jpg)

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/344/090307220601.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220601.jpg)http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3509/090307220602.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220602.jpg)http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3728/090307220700.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220700.jpg)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8214/090307220800.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220800.jpg)http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7941/090307220900.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307220900.jpg)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6133/090307221000.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090307221000.jpg)

big trench-fights guaranted. :love:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

nice

[Krieg]

No.Mam, if you stop, you will have GREAT problems!! :realbig:
And dont try to provoke me... :D :realbig:

KEEEEEEP :wow: IIIIIIT :wow: UUUUUP!! :wow:

[MiB]

Can we get any info of further part of mod like units, skins, tactical possibility?

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

heres a unit i would like to see in multiplayer? the Karl 600mm super heavy mortar

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Can we get any info of further part of mod like units, skins, tactical possibility?
we will give y detailed informations about our mod next few days.


x[F-Fullmetal]heres a unit i would like to see in multiplayer? the Karl 600mm super heavy mortar
that was our first work what we have done. :lol:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

also i forget what it was called but it was a german arty cannon and it was a 170mm monster and it could be towed by truck but i dont remember what it was called i think it was like a K-18 or K-19 i dont know

[[OoO]No.Mam]

hmmmm. y mean this one? :arrow: Klick Me (http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_artillery_adv.php?op=show_art&artilleryZ=12) :arrowleft:

[MiB]

If you didnt change the speed of run(men) plz do it because i dont wanna see idiot running men in soe 2. The speed of run of soe 1.8 would be perfect.

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

No.Mam]hmmmm. y mean this one? :arrow: Klick Me (http://www.tarrif.net/cgi/production/all_artillery_adv.php?op=show_art&artilleryZ=12) :arrowleft:

yeah thats it..that you should ad to SoE 2 aswell

[MiB]

No.Mam u promised some info 2 weeks ago:/

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Update four for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map called "Kurland".

This map is the 4th of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. "Kurland" have a size of 1300x550 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2227/background1tgk.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=background1tgk.jpg)
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3717/backgroundlbi.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backgroundlbi.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Kurland" for you:
Stream: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734) (offline !!)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(105Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )

Also, next big map is finished. :wow: Overfly video will be released next days.

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention...

[Dilust]

Thank you and the SoE Team.

[MiB]

No.Mam u promised some info 2 weeks ago:/

No.Mam?
Some info about units, skins, possiblities?

[readalert]

maybe they cant respond because they are too busy determining flag locations for Battlezones mode :insane:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

hmm, well i can be patiant.........OHHH!!! cmon whens the next info...lol

[[SOE]Wolfi]

we are changing the settings at the moment so there is not much we can show u. when the settings are ready we will post a gameplay video!

[MiB]

I am very looking forward this!!!


Wolfi]we are changing the settings at the moment so there is not much we can show u. when the settings are ready we will post a gameplay video!

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

sweet!! cant wait

[Tommy2guns]

Is this SOE for Fow or Soldiers?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Is this SOE for Fow or Soldiers?
this mod will work only with Men of War.

[Tommy2guns]

Ok Thanks.

[Ka-Oz]

just watched the brest video, WOW thats some impressive use of the Gem editor, congrats

one thing bother me as the first part of the mod is mp, i suppose the map is for Mp, i would like to ask how good does the game handle that kind of huge map online with 8 players ??

[[OoO]No.Mam]

just watched the brest video, WOW thats some impressive use of the Gem editor, congrats

thx for compliment. :oops:


one thing bother me as the first part of the mod is mp, i suppose the map is for Mp, i would like to ask how good does the game handle that kind of huge map online with 8 players ??
all maps are for MP and most standard PC's should handle these maps with 8vs8. we had no problems to play all maps but our mod need bit more power than standard game. :yes:
i think C2D, 2GB Ram & 256MB GPU works perfect.

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

so whens mods first release come out?

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

also you should add this skin for the tiger. its normandy camo but i think its cool and that it would be cool to have

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p253/wild949/l_4e01c09bc9bf40e49e545e9b455fbab5.jpg

[[OoO]No.Mam]

y mean this one? this skin is in original MoW avaiable.
open editor - add tiger - change skin

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2833/090402201000.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090402201000.jpg)

[Viceman]

Any new release date yet? I dont want to rush anything, just curious ;) No.Mam, your sig says "SoE2 RWM mod member. (release Q1 2009)", and its already gone.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Any new release date yet?
sry, cant give an exact date for release, but i think main part will be finished in 4-5 weeks. (i hope :yes: )

here is a small list what we have done or in work:
- new firing range (200-350 m ingame) - 95% finished
- new visual range - 95% finished
- new vehicles - 75% finished
- new big maps (at least 8 new maps) - 5 finished - 1 75% finished - 1 50% finished
- new firing animations - allways in work
- new sounds - allways in work
- new gamesettings eg. year 1941, 1942, 1943... 50% done
- much much other new things...



No.Mam, your sig says "SoE2 RWM mod member. (release Q1 2009)", and its already gone.
uuuups. :ninja:

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

No.Mam]y mean this one? this skin is in original MoW avaiable.
open editor - add tiger - change skin

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2833/090402201000.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=090402201000.jpg)


what you cant change the skin or edit it yourself?

[FFA702]

new firing animations
What do you mean?New 3D animation for inf?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

What do you mean?New 3D animation for inf?
no, only animation for the bullets -> now y can see bullets and ricochets (shot) much better.
:arrow: HERE (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2377721) :arrowleft: can y see what i mean (pls download 2 vids -> streaming have less quality)

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

speaking of SoE2 cant you take skins from SoE1 for SHoWW2?

[s.pz.abt.503]

2 questions:
1)SOE will be have diffrent setings in armor penetrations system ?
2) Map "Brest" , will be not a bit laggy ? I like it alot , very complex map but.....

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

i think this mod will be better then it older brother from SHoWW2 and think that mod was the best in the world number 2 will be like a million times better just for graphics and battles maps everything

[FFA702]

oh i see,you just retexture the bullet.FX?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

2 questions:
1)SOE will be have diffrent setings in armor penetrations system ?
2) Map "Brest" , will be not a bit laggy ? I like it alot , very complex map but.....

1) yes.
2) on actuall pc-systems the map works without lags. but, i think we must rework map new, after official patch is avaiable.



x[F-Fullmetal]i think this mod will be better then it older brother from SHoWW2 and think that mod was the best in the world number 2 will be like a million times better just for graphics and battles maps everything
ohhh. thx for praise. we are working day and night for this mod. hope - end is comming soon. :typing:



oh i see,you just retexture the bullet.FX?
thats right.

[Federico 76]

Is there in program also a infantry reskin? I ask thath just because i think thath the original ones are simlply sooooo ridiculous and unrealistic...

By the way, I agree with E]x[F-Fullmetal... :yes:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Is there in program also a infantry reskin?
yes, we add some new skins for infantry. but our modteam dont create new skins. we add only new infantryskins from other mods - where we have permission. same with "new" originalskins or from other mods for tanks & cars.

[E]x[F-Fullmetal]

well if i new how to skin i would create the skin from my model of a tiger normandy camo.

[cat]

here are some impressions from our new map. (1500x650 meters in game)
The units in the editor are not meters.

[akm74]

x[F-Fullmetal]well if i new how to skin i would create the skin from my model of a tiger normandy camo.
Here is a tutorial I post on Russian forum. It in Russian, but if you familiar with Photoshop ... it's really easy to understand what on that screen.
Here is a photoshop screen:

http://forum.bestway.com.ua/attachment.php?attachmentid=5712&d=1239376928

Here is a ingame screen:

http://forum.bestway.com.ua/attachment.php?attachmentid=5713&d=1239377293

You will need camo photoshop plugin. You can download it here:

http://photoshop.pluginsworld.com/plugi ... flage.html (http://photoshop.pluginsworld.com/plugins/adobe/249/vanderlee/camouflage.html)

Good luck

[Rebs]

x[F-Fullmetal]well if i new how to skin i would create the skin from my model of a tiger normandy camo.

As said it is already in the game -.-

Btw, if youre gonna use new skins are you gonna use Kohlrabis infantry pack skins, they are just georgious (or something)

[[OoO]No.Mam]

The units in the editor are not meters.
:huh: :huh:
ok. range between spawnpoints are 1500x650 eduni's. ;)

... eduni's ... -> editor units :lol:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

small update:
next 2 maps are finished. :yes:
and we have made a small "ingame" video from our citymap "Brest" where y can see our "new" firing range from infantrie.

Map #5:
loading screen of our new map:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5676/soe2rwm5600.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9700/soe2rwm5.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soe2rwm5.jpg)


Map #6:
loading screen of our new map:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6921/soe2rwm6600.jpg
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7664/soe2rwm6.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soe2rwm6.jpg)


Video #1: Brest InGame
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1533/090421221401600.jpg (http://ul.to/o9m3od)
Videodownload: (divx file -> pls use VLC mediaPlayer)
02_Brest_-_InGame 178MB (http://ul.to/o9m3od) (uploaded.to)


releasedate? sorry cant give an exact date. pls have patience. we dont want release this mod before finished without patching every 2nd day.

[mp5_sd]

Interesting street lighting. :) That city need a night SP mission.

[cat]

Many dynamic lights will drag down fps.

[Sille]

Hello all!

Im a BIG fan of SHoWW2 and i played it with many mods for a long time back in the days.

I remember that SoE was one of two mods that i really loved.

The maps look absolutely astonishing! :booyah:

I love MP and i think its the right decision to focus on MP first and SP later. But will there be any SP mission in the future?

Will we be abel to choose the amount of points befor eatch battle, i think you could in the old one, if i remember correctly?

Keep up the good work guys!

From a long time fan of SHoWW2 and SoE :beer:

Btw im going to start MoW campaign today, and i was woundering if there are any other great mods that i could use to get more realism in the SP game?

[stabiz]

Good ol SoE! Looking forward to this, loved the first SoE mod.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

small update:

we have changed the visual hud for all infantrie.
now y can see on icons from each soldier his exact weapon and his aducation (stars).

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6816/01paneelo.png (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01paneelo.png)

Eng. AP-Miners:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7348/apminerseng00.png (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=apminerseng00.png)

Rus. AT-Miners:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/810/atminersrus01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atminersrus01.png)

Rus. AT-Rifle: (PTRS 1941)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2948/atriflerus01.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atriflerus01.png)

Eng. Bazooka: (Piat)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4601/bazookereng01x.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bazookereng01x.png)

Ger. Flamer: (Model 41)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9413/flamersger01j.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flamersger01j.png)

Rus. AT-Rifle: (PTRD 1941)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/779/gardeatrifle42rus01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gardeatrifle42rus01.png)

Rus. MG-Gunner: (DP Degtyarev)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1207/gardepulmetchikrus01u.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gardepulmetchikrus01u.png)

Ger. MG-Gunner: (MG42)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8056/mgun43ger01o.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mgun43ger01o.png)

Usa. Officer:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2403/officerusa01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=officerusa01.png)

Ger. AT-Rifle: (PzB39)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3696/paschuetzeger01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paschuetzeger01.png)

Ger. Rifle: (M98K+Panzerfaust)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6583/pfschuetzeger01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pfschuetzeger01.png)

Eng. Sapper:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7706/sapperseng01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sapperseng01.png)

Eng. SMG: (MK2)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/595/smg2eng01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smg2eng01.png)

Usa. Snipper: (M1903A4)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4083/snipersusa01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snipersusa01.png)

Ger. SMG: (MP40)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/328/sturmpionier2ger01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sturmpionier2ger01.png)

Ger. Tankman:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1738/tankmansger01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tankmansger01.png)

Ger. Vehikle Supporter:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/207/vehiclesupporterger01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vehiclesupporterger01.png)

Rus. Officer:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9710/officerrus01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=officerrus01.png)

Usa. Flamer: (M-2)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1571/flamersusa01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flamersusa01.png)

and much, much more.... :realbig:

[Heer_sturmfuhrer]

Wow, really nice new in-game art, just wondering how did you manage to cut around the images so precisely, i mean theres literally no indication of left over bits around the edges of all the weapons youve cut out of other pictures.

Really nice work SOE team, cant wait for a release :D


sturm

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Wow, really nice new in-game art, just wondering how did you manage to cut around the images so precisely, i mean theres literally no indication of left over bits around the edges of all the weapons youve cut out of other pictures.

gimp (http://www.gimp.org/) works perfect with differend layer/levels.
and yes, ive found a webside with all WWII weapons (without copyright) ;)

[AnEvilGuy]

Hey, will this contain any SP maps?
If not, I would like to make some for you guys.

[Orrie]

That was very creative! Storm over Europe 2 will be a great modification!

[MiB]

I say that I dont care how long we have to wait for it but be perfect!!! KEEEP UR EXCELENT WORK SOE TEAM UP!!!

:beer:

[pelitys]

Those icons look FRIGGING AWESOME!! 8O
Good job on those!

[Dilust]

Nice work. Very cool icons :punkl:

[cat]

Question, do you suppose that even the older machines can handle 2km by 2km maps? I disagree with this. Even a wellmade 500x500 is enough to put an older rig to it's knees.

Good to hear that SoE2 is on the way :) And uhm.. What's so new in the Tiger? I don't get :huh:

I get very low fps on "town". And Bocage. But larger maps like hunting run smooth. I think the buildings eat a lot of performance. So I have serious doubts that the brest map will run ok on a medium PC. My PC can run Crysis on very high with constant 22 fps. So it is not the oldest rig.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

a standard pc (eg. 2.53 Ghz CPU + 256 MB GPU) should have no problems to handle our "big" maps.
i see only the problem, that MoW didnt support multi-core CPUs at time. :evil:

on our map "Brest" y'll get low fps only when 2 rockedlauncher shoot same time at same place.


Many dynamic lights will drag down fps.
thats true. we removed most dynamic lights from our new maps.

[Moldernado]

Are you guys going to use time periods like the german soldiers mod? Like 39-41, 41-42, etc? That'd be great.

One other thing I'd like to see is that during a long 1939-1945 game, you have longer timers on the units. Let's say the game is 60 minutes long. First 20 minutes = PZ III/IV's, next 20 = panthers/tigers, last 20 minutes = King/Jagd/Sturmtigers?

So each 20minute mark represents a period in the war :)

Same goes for russians too, with the Lend-Lease equipment being available later in the war and such. No M3A1's or bazookas in the beginning..


When you use this "Time-lock" on units you can have higher points for more intensive combat, like 1000 points in 60 minutes. This is controlled by CP points so it doesn't get unbalanced of course..

These are just ideas, I haven't given it much thought. It might get unbalanced, I hate 600point/40minutes games in vanilla MoW :/.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Are you guys going to use time periods like the german soldiers mod? Like 39-41, 41-42, etc? That'd be great.
No. we dont make different time-periods. we will made several settings for each year. ;)


One other thing I'd like to see is that during a long 1939-1945 game, you have longer timers on the units. Let's say the game is 60 minutes long. First 20 minutes = PZ III/IV's, next 20 = panthers/tigers, last 20 minutes = King/Jagd/Sturmtigers?
possible. with "all vehicle" settings. i'll talk about this (good) idea with our modmembers. should be no problem.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Update five for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map.

This map is the 5th of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. This map have a size of 1300x550 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9415/background640.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=background640.jpg)
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/605/backgroundyex.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backgroundyex.jpg)

This is the preview video from our 5th map for you:
Download: (Normal Quality - 163MB)
Mirror #1: #05_SoE2_NQ.avi (http://files.filefront.com/05+SoE2+NQ/;13800894;/fileinfo.html)

videoinformations: 960x600 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec;
best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/

Also, next big map (#6) is finished. :wow: Overfly video will be released next days.

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention...

[Dilust]

As usual a great map :insane:

[Orrie]

Nice :D

[sossenbinder]

Hi, when do u plan to release your mod?

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Hi, when do u plan to release your mod?
sorry we cant give y an exact date for release, because we must change/add verry much settings. :cry:
6 new maps are finished - but we need at least 8 new maps. and much, much, much other new stuff.

pls have patience.

[Dilust]

14 map? Really a great and hard work.
Best wishes my friends. :punkl:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

14 map? Really a great and hard work.
Best wishes my friends.
no - mistake. only 8 maps. (not 6+8) :yes:

[Gabriel]

No.Mam]
Hi, when do u plan to release your mod?
sorry we cant give y an exact date for release, because we must change/add verry much settings. :cry:
6 new maps are finished - but we need at least 8 new maps. and much, much, much other new stuff.

pls have patience.
don't worry we wait all the time you need for 1 of the best mods :realbig: :realbig:

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Update six for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map.

This map is the 6th of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. This map have a size of 1250x600 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4535/soerwm640d.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/soerwm640d.jpg/)
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4517/soerwmbackgroundt.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/soerwmbackgroundt.jpg/)

This is the preview video from our 6th map for you:
Download: (Normal Quality - 120MB)
Mirror #1: #06_SoE2_NQ.avi (http://files.filefront.com/06+SoE2+NQavi/;13887172;/fileinfo.html) (pls download movie - online stream quality is verry bad)

videoinformations: 960x600 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec;
best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention...

[Orrie]

Once again, a quality map!

I love em' big! :lol:


EDIT:

Gonna buy a new computer this easter, and then it will be more mapping going on from here. :ninja:

[Birdy]

I honestly can't wait for this mod. :insane:

[Aldemar]

Hi, this is my first post in this forum :roll: and I only will say "thanks for waiting".

Sorry that i have build only one map for SoE, no.mam is too fast for me....

cya @ battlefield :insane:

[SoE]Aldemar

[Hartmann]

Does this mean you increased the range off all tanks? Like now 300m=3000m RL or something else?

[Zebah (szebus)]

I have found those updates on the 1C forum (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?p=80354&posted=1#post80354) :


No.Mam]

No.Mam;79794']no sorry, we dont have finished webpage at time.
but here is the link to our (not finished) webpage: http://www.soegame.de/

Update four for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map called "Kurland".

This map is the 4th of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. "Kurland" have a size of 1300x550 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2227/background1tgk.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=background1tgk.jpg)
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3717/backgroundlbi.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backgroundlbi.jpg)

This is the preview video from "Kurland" for you:
Stream: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734) (offline !!)
Download: Video (http://hosted.filefront.com/SOE2RWM/2269734)

(105Mb 640x480 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec; best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/ )



Update five for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map.

This map is the 5th of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. This map have a size of 1300x550 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9415/background640.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=background640.jpg)
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/605/backgroundyex.th.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backgroundyex.jpg)

This is the preview video from our 5th map for you:
Download: (Normal Quality - 163MB)
Mirror #1: #05_SoE2_NQ.avi (http://files.filefront.com/05+SoE2+NQ/;13800894;/fileinfo.html)

videoinformations: 960x600 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec;
best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/



Update six for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a completely new build map.

This map is the 6th of a series of new maps supporting bigger ranges and engagements in SoE2. This map have a size of 1250x600 meters in game. On this map you will become a completely other gaming experience as in the retail MoW game depend on realistic combat ranges for infantry and tank weapons.

So here, that is the loading screen of our new map:
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4535/soerwm640d.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/soerwm640d.jpg/)
and here in a little bit better resolution:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4517/soerwmbackgroundt.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/soerwmbackgroundt.jpg/)

This is the preview video from our 6th map for you:
Download: (Normal Quality - 120MB)
Mirror #1: #06_SoE2_NQ.avi (http://files.filefront.com/06+SoE2+NQavi/;13887172;/fileinfo.html) (pls download movie - online stream quality is verry bad)

videoinformations: 960x600 H.264/AVC video codec/ mp3 audio codec;
best solution to view is VLC Player, completely free at http://www.videolan.org/


Small update for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.

we have changed the visual hud for all infantrie.
now y can see on icons from each soldier his exact weapon and his aducation (stars).

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6816/01paneelo.png (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01paneelo.png)

Eng. AP-Miners:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7348/apminerseng00.png (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=apminerseng00.png)

Rus. AT-Miners:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/810/atminersrus01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atminersrus01.png)

Rus. AT-Rifle: (PTRS 1941)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2948/atriflerus01.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atriflerus01.png)

Eng. Bazooka: (Piat)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4601/bazookereng01x.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bazookereng01x.png)

Ger. Flamer: (Model 41)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9413/flamersger01j.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flamersger01j.png)

Rus. AT-Rifle: (PTRD 1941)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/779/gardeatrifle42rus01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gardeatrifle42rus01.png)

Rus. MG-Gunner: (DP Degtyarev)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1207/gardepulmetchikrus01u.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gardepulmetchikrus01u.png)

Ger. MG-Gunner: (MG42)
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8056/mgun43ger01o.png (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mgun43ger01o.png)

Usa. Officer:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2403/officerusa01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=officerusa01.png)

Ger. AT-Rifle: (PzB39)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3696/paschuetzeger01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paschuetzeger01.png)

Ger. Rifle: (M98K+Panzerfaust)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6583/pfschuetzeger01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pfschuetzeger01.png)

Eng. Sapper:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7706/sapperseng01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sapperseng01.png)

Eng. SMG: (MK2)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/595/smg2eng01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smg2eng01.png)

Usa. Snipper: (M1903A4)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4083/snipersusa01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snipersusa01.png)

Ger. SMG: (MP40)
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/328/sturmpionier2ger01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sturmpionier2ger01.png)

Ger. Tankman:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1738/tankmansger01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tankmansger01.png)

Ger. Vehikle Supporter:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/207/vehiclesupporterger01.png (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vehiclesupporterger01.png)

Rus. Officer:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9710/officerrus01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=officerrus01.png)

Usa. Flamer: (M-2)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1571/flamersusa01.png (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flamersusa01.png)

Please stay tuned the next update will coming soon. Thx for attention...


Hope You ([SOE]No.Mam) don't mind that I have posted this here. TNX

[[OoO]No.Mam]

thx for adding infos.
but y can see all infos from last (1C forum) topic in this thread between side 18 and 24. (i think)

thx No.Mam

[Orrie]

Great site, but are you thinking of making it English, (or have choice for either German or English).

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Great site, but are you thinking of making it English, (or have choice for either German or English).
this is only a template. we work on it, when we have time. and yes, our internet side is avaiable in english (only).

[Orrie]

Template or not, its awesome! :realbig:

[CHN gamer]

Will there be a singleplayer campaign for us,like you did in soe1.8?I wish it could be a perfect one.

[[OoO]No.Mam]

Update seven for Storm over Europe 2 modification. We proudly present new informations about our mod.
Today we want to share a few information and visuals with you. Here we present a new feature for "Battlezone" and "Capture the Flag".

Our modteam thought, that all playable multiplayer maps get boring after y played this map 100 times. So we had added "non-fix-programmed" flagpoints into our maps.

On gamestart the position from every flagpoint would be set new again. We think this feature makes maps more varied.

big thx to Murmeltier to realize this feature !!! :toast:

eg. example on roadmap:
positions from flagpoints after 1st gamestart:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7779/flags1u.th.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/flags1u.jpg/)

new positions from flagpoints after 2st gamestart:
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7113/flags2.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/flags2.jpg/)

new positions from flagpoints after 3rd gamestart:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5056/flags3b.th.jpg (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/flags3b.jpg/)

[Dilust]

Wait a moment... you said random flag positions. Have I understood?
Very nice feature. :toast:

[FFA702]

Make shure the flag wont all spawn on one side of the map :shady: